You find us some crack smoking nuns and I'm all over it . . .
Dude . . . I think what we have here is failure to communicate . . . . let's define something . . .
What to you is CLUBHEAD THROWAWAY???
To me if the club stays in-line with your left arm . . . it don't matter what your grip looks like . . . it ain't no throwaway.
So you are telling me that if anybody on the planet has a turned grip and uses angled hinging . . . they are throwing it away??? So Lee Buck was a throw away artist???
4-D-1 THE FLAT LEFT WRIST
All Wrist positions and motion may remain correct until the Release, where, for a variety of misconceptions the Right Wrist is allowed to Flatten. Any loss in Impact Fix Right Wrist Bend during Release immediately becomes Left Wrist Bend – Clubhead Throwaway. Which starts the Club swinging form the Wrists – in an “inside” and “upward” motion – the Clubface is rapidly Closing and the Clubshaft becomes “in-line” with the Right Forearm instead of the Left Arm.
There's no way through the line of compression Sergio Garcia doesn't satisfy the conditions of the Flail. It don't happen.
I got a feeling you could find us some crack smokin' nuns in a matter of minutes.
"You will not apply my precept," he said, shaking his head. "How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth? We know that he did not come through the door, the window, or the chimney. We also know that he could not have been concealed in the room, as there is no concealment possible. When, then, did he come?"
Dear Mr. Watson,
We agree on the Definition of Clubhead Throwaway. However, you are under the mistaken belief that if his Left Wrist looks Flat and Primary Lever looks intact at the point of impact then he passes the acid test for clubhead Throwaway and may collect $200.00 and pass Go and not go to Jail. I, on the other hand, believe that if his Clubshaft becomes inline with his Right Forearm at any time before or immediately following impact that he exhibits the illness “Clubhead Throwaway”. His swing includes the Process of Throwing The Clubhead Away. I simply point out that the Ball got in the way before too much damage was done. Hense: “Controlled Clubhead Throwaway”. Furthermore, and this is an important concept, If he throws the clubhead away, he has not used a Hinge. Hmm? Fry that.
Post #23, Line #1 “Here's sequenced release for sure . . .” Came from your computer. So whether you said it or not, your computer communicated that comment to the Servers at LBG and the Servers at LBG included this statement in the Thread you wrote. Watch your back. I don’t trust computers.
PS. Pretty Italian Catholic Nuns, Drink beer and play Golf with Bucket and Daryl. Daryl and Bucket take advantage of them because of yardage distance and win Church money. Bucket and Daryl play Golf in High Heat on crappy courses for Eternity. I'd rather lose to the Pros. Please reconsider.
I may invite a firestorm of controversy, but I think hitting is "superior" on and around the greens (please allow for my own psychological needs.) I'm not sure how much centrifugal force you can apply to say a 20 yard chip shot...there is simply not a great deal of CF in effect. However, with extensor action and a very marked #3 PP and #1 Acc. you can exercise a great deal of control on short shots.
I am all for an integrated stroke pattern tee to green, but my lab work (ok, the local driving range) suggests more structure is required the closer I get to the hole. Initially, I was disappointed, but now I see the beauty of it. I free wheel (akin to shooting skeet or quail) until I get into the scoring zone (akin to what a Marine sniper does best...Hoorah!) The weakness of this is the bane of every and any procedure, it will not serve us all. Therein lies the genius of Homer Kelley...he essentially took care of ALL of us. I marvel at the likes of Yoda, YodasLuke and Annikan (there are many others using this site, no doubt) who can not only diagnose but accurately prescribe without fear of malpractice!
I may invite a firestorm of controversy, but I think hitting is "superior" on and around the greens (please allow for my own psychological needs.) I'm not sure how much centrifugal force you can apply to say a 20 yard chip shot...there is simply not a great deal of CF in effect. However, with extensor action and a very marked #3 PP and #1 Acc. you can exercise a great deal of control on short shots.
I am all for an integrated stroke pattern tee to green, but my lab work (ok, the local driving range) suggests more structure is required the closer I get to the hole. Initially, I was disappointed, but now I see the beauty of it. I free wheel (akin to shooting skeet or quail) until I get into the scoring zone (akin to what a Marine sniper does best...Hoorah!) The weakness of this is the bane of every and any procedure, it will not serve us all. Therein lies the genius of Homer Kelley...he essentially took care of ALL of us. I marvel at the likes of Yoda, YodasLuke and Annikan (there are many others using this site, no doubt) who can not only diagnose but accurately prescribe without fear of malpractice!
Okie,
I'm sure both techniques would work. I still go thru periods where I let a little CF do the work ...... I think it stems from being a swinger..... it just naturally progresses into all aspects of my game. However, I do find I gravitate to hitting more and more in the short game. If nothing else you FEEL like your more in control of everything, and it seems a bit easier to mete out varying levels of "thrust" or lag pressure when hitting.
As far as putting.... I tried push basic and it just didn't work for me. I've gone more to more of a pendulum motion as put forth by Geoff Mangum. If you haven't seen his site.... www.theputtingzone.com it's worth a look. Some really good info on alignment, aiming, etc... regardless of the stroke techniques employed. Very "science based" information.... a nice complement to TGM.
Bucket,
Thank you for forcing me to think. I understand the Release Motions better than I ever had before this thread and it has helped clear the fog on many related issues. It’s true, you get out of it what you put into it.
I'm sure both techniques would work. I still go thru periods where I let a little CF do the work ...... I think it stems from being a swinger..... it just naturally progresses into all aspects of my game. However, I do find I gravitate to hitting more and more in the short game. If nothing else you FEEL like your more in control of everything, and it seems a bit easier to mete out varying levels of "thrust" or lag pressure when hitting.
CG
I agree 100%. I think exactly the same way about it. For me, inside 50 Yards is Hitting. I can swing from 5 yards, but what's the use? Hitting is a sure thing.
"You will not apply my precept," he said, shaking his head. "How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth? We know that he did not come through the door, the window, or the chimney. We also know that he could not have been concealed in the room, as there is no concealment possible. When, then, did he come?"
Dear Mr. Watson,
We agree on the Definition of Clubhead Throwaway. However, you are under the mistaken belief that if his Left Wrist looks Flat and Primary Lever looks intact at the point of impact then he passes the acid test for clubhead Throwaway and may collect $200.00 and pass Go and not go to Jail. I, on the other hand, believe that if his Clubshaft becomes inline with his Right Forearm at any time before or immediately following impact that he exhibits the illness “Clubhead Throwaway”. His swing includes the Process of Throwing The Clubhead Away. I simply point out that the Ball got in the way before too much damage was done. Hense: “Controlled Clubhead Throwaway”. Furthermore, and this is an important concept, If he throws the clubhead away, he has not used a Hinge. Hmm? Fry that.
Post #23, Line #1 “Here's sequenced release for sure . . .” Came from your computer. So whether you said it or not, your computer communicated that comment to the Servers at LBG and the Servers at LBG included this statement in the Thread you wrote. Watch your back. I don’t trust computers.
PS. Pretty Italian Catholic Nuns, Drink beer and play Golf with Bucket and Daryl. Daryl and Bucket take advantage of them because of yardage distance and win Church money. Bucket and Daryl play Golf in High Heat on crappy courses for Eternity. I'd rather lose to the Pros. Please reconsider.
OK you got me on #23 . . . but that's not the point of my comparison . . . if you and Mike O are going to "de-lag" Sergio and "de-controlled throwaway" him . . . He'll be crying 'cause he couldn't get through second stage three years from now.
If Sergio's "controlled throwaway" then Zach is "controlled steering" . . .
I think Mike O got thrown out of a daycare for wearing a gorilla mask and a nun's get-up . . . with no pants. Hey Mike! You know any crackhead nun's?
OK you got me on #23 . . . but that's not the point of my comparison . . . if you and Mike O are going to "de-lag" Sergio and "de-controlled throwaway" him . . . He'll be crying 'cause he couldn't get through second stage three years from now.
If Sergio's "controlled throwaway" then Zach is "controlled steering" . . .
I think Mike O got thrown out of a daycare for wearing a gorilla mask and a nun's get-up . . . with no pants. Hey Mike! You know any crackhead nun's?
"Controlled Steering"? 190 pounds at 120 MPH? How do you Steer That?
"Controlled Steering"? 190 pounds at 120 MPH? How do you Steer That?
My exact point on Sergio . . . 150 lbs at 120 mph . . . with the club that high up from the ball . .. it don't matter what happens much after it's gone when the club is coming down from angle that steep. He'd have to do something major retarded with his hands or his pivot to flip under it.
My exact point on Sergio . . . 150 lbs at 120 mph . . . with the club that high up from the ball . .. it don't matter what happens much after it's gone when the club is coming down from angle that steep. He'd have to do something major retarded with his hands or his pivot to flip under it.
True: my original point. Sergio doesn't Flip his hands like the Announcers say he does. It's late Release.
This thread took off. Not even sure what the argument is! Took 3 advil, reread the thread, then got in bed - was feeling a little illin, then started rhyming like a bob o dylan.
Hybrid Mode
