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Old 02-04-2008, 07:36 PM
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10-2-D STRONG DOUBLE ACTION T/V/A Now the Right Wrist is Vertical and the Left Wrist is Turned to the top of the Clubshaft so that the Left Wristcocking motion will be on the same line as the Right Wrist Bend. The #3 Pressure Point and the left thumb are also on the same line as the Right Wrist Bend. Double Action – same as 10-2-C.
I'm a little concerned about that. 10-2-D doesn't Roll through impact. It seems to me, that the Clubhead/Clubface is uncocking going through Impact. If that's true, then they aren't traveling at the same RPM. The same RPM occurs with Roll when the Swingle doesn't pass the handle.
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:41 PM
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I'm a little concerned about that. 10-2-D doesn't Roll through impact. It seems to me, that the Clubhead/Clubface is uncocking going through Impact. If that's true, then they aren't traveling at the same RPM. The same RPM occurs with Roll when the Swingle doesn't pass the handle.
Forgive me. 10-2-D is a Freddie Couples type grip, right?

Good point. I see exactly what you mean.

Perhaps I inferred Homer meant it in a circle way, versus your perspective, which makes sense to me - I can definitely see the clubhead moving faster due to the uncocking left wrist.

Dont know. Need to roll this one around some.
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:48 PM
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Forgive me. 10-2-D is a Freddie Couples type grip, right?

Good point. I see exactly what you mean.

Perhaps I inferred Homer meant it in a circle way, versus your perspective, which makes sense to me - I can definitely see the clubhead moving faster due to the uncocking left wrist.

Dont know. Need to roll this one around some.
Then, my exact point would be: The Clubhead and Right Hand and Right Forearm Always move at the same RPM from Address to Finish Swivel.
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Old 02-04-2008, 08:04 PM
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Then, my exact point would be: The Clubhead and Right Hand and Right Forearm Always move at the same RPM from Address to Finish Swivel.
Does that still leave use with the couples/vj issue?

Understand your point, and a hell of a good one. I'm with you. Its verbiage now and making sure all perspectives are accounted for.
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Old 02-04-2008, 08:27 PM
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Does that still leave use with the couples/vj issue?

Understand your point, and a hell of a good one. I'm with you. Its verbiage now and making sure all perspectives are accounted for.
Just about every pro golfer we see at impact has "Flying Wedges" intact throughout the Impact. Their Flat Left Wrist Condition varies from Turned to Vertical to even Rolled (in a few cases). But the Right Hand is almost invariably Bent and Level. The Magic of the Right Forearm states that the Left Wrist Cocks by the Right Elbow Bending. Also, if we stop the Right Arm from straightening, then no release and no Uncocking Left Wrist.

If this is true, then, Left Wrist Action is controlled by Grip To Plane and Right Wrist Action. We can then define Right Wrist Actions. Then, and this gets really interesting, we can separate Power Package Assembly and Delivery independently from the Flying Wedges. You don’t need Flying Wedges to Putt.

Much of HK’s Power Package Alignments are related to the Flying Wedge Structure. Maybe Power Package and Structure are separate, like Hip Motion and Hip Action.

Power Package Structure can be defined by ............And Variations are..................??? I'm workin on it.
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Old 02-04-2008, 08:40 PM
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Just about every pro golfer we see at impact has "Flying Wedges" intact throughout the Impact. Their Flat Left Wrist Condition varies from Turned to Vertical to even Rolled (in a few cases). But the Right Hand is almost invariably Bent and Level. The Magic of the Right Forearm states that the Left Wrist Cocks by the Right Elbow Bending. Also, if we stop the Right Arm from straightening, then no release and no Uncocking Left Wrist.

If this is true, then, Left Wrist Action is controlled by Grip To Plane and Right Wrist Action. We can then define Right Wrist Actions. Then, and this gets really interesting, we can separate Power Package Assembly and Delivery independently from the Flying Wedges. You don’t need Flying Wedges to Putt.

Much of HK’s Power Package Alignments are related to the Flying Wedge Structure. Maybe Power Package and Structure are separate, like Hip Motion and Hip Action.

Power Package Structure can be defined by ............And Variations are..................
Ok, thats it. You're nuts.
Certifiably.

Not because of your logic -- dead on to me.

But because you analyzed this to this point - and drug me into this - and now I wont be able to sleep. Speaking of drugging me, got a xanax?

Insane.

Crazy.

I am talking bars on the window crazy.

I'll be back though......

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Old 02-04-2008, 08:43 PM
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I think that this could close up some gaps. Think of Hinging as related to Right Wrist Actions through Impact.

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Wheelrim Turning Point

Maybe Bucket and Mike O can chew on this bone for awhile.
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Old 02-06-2008, 11:25 AM
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Then, my exact point would be: The Clubhead and Right Hand and Right Forearm Always move at the same RPM from Address to Finish Swivel.

Now that the discusion on this issue seems completed, do you agree with the statement:

The Clubhead and Right Hand and Right Forearm "SHOULD" always move at the same RPM from Address to Finish Swivel.
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Now that the discusion on this issue seems completed, do you agree with the statement:

The Clubhead and Right Hand and Right Forearm "SHOULD" always move at the same RPM from Address to Finish Swivel.
No . . . depends on grip type and what you are trying to do.
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Old 02-06-2008, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post
No . . . depends on grip type.
Were you this difficult growing up? Let me talk to your wife.

How about "any grip type" and "Right hand TO PLANE" as long as the Right Wrist remains level and Bent"
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