i'm still looking for a substantive criticism of the book !
Originally Posted by elygc1
Those of you that have worked with Mac, would you say that he feels that Homer's work is 30% incomplete or 30% inaccurate. I was looking for some information and couldn't find much.
elygc1,
i have not worked with mr. o'grady but i have heard his criticisms the golfing machine.
mr. o'grady says the book is 65% correct. i'm assuming that this implies that the book is 35% incorrect , and i'm assuming that the criticisms below, according to mr. o'grady , are the total 35% that he considers incorrect. it could be that he has other criticisms for the book being in his words, "tragically flawed", if so he might like to enlighten us.
the criticisms of the book according to mr. o'grady are:
1. there is no bibliography.
2. he doesn't like the terminology.
3. hitting doesn't exist.
these criticisms of the propositions of the golfing machine have the interesting feature that IF ; 1) we tack on a bibliography and , 2 ) we simply change words that signify certain concepts , and 3) we make the simple point that it is possible for a human arm to push against the clubshaft , ( i don't think it would take a team of "researchers" to study this in order to to verify the truth of this empirical proposition ,i believe anyone could test this for themselves .) THEN these criticisms of the propositions of the golfing machine are no longer criticisms . the book is now 100% correct .
thus , the criticisms of mr. o'grady are a matter of taste and misunderstanding
your golfing machine comrade in arms
p.s. comrade yoda , where did you get those icons with the bandanas and blood on them ? i would like to have an entire army of those little guys !
p.s. comrade yoda , where did you get those icons with the bandanas and blood on them ? i would like to have an entire army of those little guys !
: rambo : (without the spaces)
I thought I would answer your request comrade, lest you send your army of rambos after me!
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).
The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
mrodock,
it's nice to have the little golfing machine revolutionaries behind you ??!!!
Indeed !
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).
The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
elygc1,
i have not worked with mr. o'grady but i have heard his criticisms the golfing machine.
mr. o'grady says the book is 65% correct. i'm assuming that this implies that the book is 35% incorrect , and i'm assuming that the criticisms below, according to mr. o'grady , are the total 35% that he considers incorrect. it could be that he has other criticisms for the book being in his words, "tragically flawed", if so he might like to enlighten us.
the criticisms of the book according to mr. o'grady are:
1. there is no bibliography.
2. he doesn't like the terminology.
3. hitting doesn't exist.
these criticisms of the propositions of the golfing machine have the interesting feature that IF ; 1) we tack on a bibliography and , 2 ) we simply change words that signify certain concepts , and 3) we make the simple point that it is possible for a human arm to push against the clubshaft , ( i don't think it would take a team of "researchers" to study this in order to to verify the truth of this empirical proposition ,i believe anyone could test this for themselves .) THEN these criticisms of the propositions of the golfing machine are no longer criticisms . the book is now 100% correct .
thus , the criticisms of mr. o'grady are a matter of taste and misunderstanding
your golfing machine comrade in arms
p.s. comrade yoda , where did you get those icons with the bandanas and blood on them ? i would like to have an entire army of those little guys !
elygc1,
i have not worked with mr. o'grady but i have heard his criticisms the golfing machine.
mr. o'grady says the book is 65% correct. i'm assuming that this implies that the book is 35% incorrect , and i'm assuming that the criticisms below, according to mr. o'grady , are the total 35% that he considers incorrect. it could be that he has other criticisms for the book being in his words, "tragically flawed", if so he might like to enlighten us.
the criticisms of the book according to mr. o'grady are:
1. there is no bibliography.
2. he doesn't like the terminology.
3. hitting doesn't exist.
these criticisms of the propositions of the golfing machine have the interesting feature that IF ; 1) we tack on a bibliography and , 2 ) we simply change words that signify certain concepts , and 3) we make the simple point that it is possible for a human arm to push against the clubshaft , ( i don't think it would take a team of "researchers" to study this in order to to verify the truth of this empirical proposition ,i believe anyone could test this for themselves .) THEN these criticisms of the propositions of the golfing machine are no longer criticisms . the book is now 100% correct .
thus , the criticisms of mr. o'grady are a matter of taste and misunderstanding
your golfing machine comrade in arms
p.s. comrade yoda , where did you get those icons with the bandanas and blood on them ? i would like to have an entire army of those little guys !
Hey Comrade . . . here's some "substantive criticism" of the book . . .
It's absolutely impossible to understand . . . heck even read . . . without a guiding hand.
You find me ONE person who has ever been able to get the book without the help of an AI or Homer Kelley directly.
That book should sold as a PDF file that is capable of being searched. And should come with multimedia to demonstrate the concepts. Mr. Kelley did the best with the technology he had . . . a freakin' typewriter (not even a word processor).
But we have the techology now to basically make the book accessable to the "masses." Will it ever happen???
Hey Comrade . . . here's some "substantive criticism" of the book . . .
It's absolutely impossible to understand . . . heck even read . . . without a guiding hand.
You find me ONE person who has ever been able to get the book without the help of an AI or Homer Kelley directly.
That book should sold as a PDF file that is capable of being searched. And should come with multimedia to demonstrate the concepts. Mr. Kelley did the best with the technology he had . . . a freakin' typewriter (not even a word processor).
But we have the techology now to basically make the book accessable to the "masses." Will it ever happen???
12 piece,
the world is a complex place and the game of golf is even more complicated. do not blame homer kelley for that ! he did not make it that way .
but his 42 year effort was made so you could fully understand the game. let me regurgitate a little of the book for you ," 1-b."
there may be someone out there who has grasped the book in its entirety without the help of an ai or homer kelley, but i doubt it. it is too abstract , dense , and there are too many propositions to keep track of. 42 years worth !! more regurgitation , ' the "whole picture" is your total visualization of all the individual visualizations of specific areas. both the total and individual pictures must , in their beginnings , be vague and disjointed . but...'
which is why i think your idea of the book as a pdf and having multimedia demonstrations is great . a few years after i started reading the book i thought of the multimedia demonstrations . it would have made it much easier for me and it would make it much easier for the masses .
will it happen ? perhaps someday , but all great revolutions take a collective effort and the work that all of you are doing on lynnblakegolf is great ! but if this is not enough , we may someday need , in order to drag the golfing masses into their necessary future , reeducation camps !!
12 piece,
the world is a complex place and the game of golf is even more complicated. do not blame homer kelley for that ! he did not make it that way .
but his 42 year effort was made so you could fully understand the game. let me regurgitate a little of the book for you ," 1-b."
there may be someone out there who has grasped the book in its entirety without the help of an ai or homer kelley, but i doubt it. it is too abstract , dense , and there are too many propositions to keep track of. 42 years worth !! more regurgitation , ' the "whole picture" is your total visualization of all the individual visualizations of specific areas. both the total and individual pictures must , in their beginnings , be vague and disjointed . but...'
which is i think your idea of the book as a pdf and having multimedia demonstrations is great . a few years after i started reading the book i thought of the multimedia demonstrations . it would have made it much easier for me and it would make it much easier for the masses .
will it happen ? perhaps someday , but all great revolutions take a collective effort and the work that all of you are doing on lynnblakegolf is great ! but if this is not enough , we may someday need , in order to drag the golfing masses into their necessary future , reeducation camps !!
So let me ask you this . . . . first of all keeping in mind that I would say that Homer Kelley was definitely the greatest "golf mind" of all time and one of the the better minds of our time . . .
Do you think the Golfing Machine is a great BOOK or a great CATALOG or just great INFORMATION?
Homer Kelley took upon himself a very ambitious task in writing the book and trying avoid any reduncancy . . . . do you think he succeeded in his task? Would the book have been better as a true CATALOG with supporting volumes to gird his foundation? I'm mean the dude has 80 plus hours of recorded classes of him talking nonstop. Not many people can talk 80 hours about anything . . . and that was just the RECORDED classes.
I think the Machine moving forward would be MUCH BETTER SERVED by truly bringing organization to his works. Rather than trying to add to them. We could organize his words rather than PUTTING WORDS IN HIS MOUTH.
If anyone reading this is considering revising the book, I would give thought to separating the hitting and swinging stroke completely. As far as Homer being able to speak that long, it probably seemed to him that he was just scratching the surface.
: rambo : (without the spaces)
Hybrid Mode
