Could you, or Mathew, explain Mathew's words in photo-diagrams or a video demonstration?
Jeff.
Jeff,
I appreciate your request, however, I am about as computer illiterate as it comes. Mathew on the other hand is a computer genius. Hopefully, he will post (Youtube?) when he returns. I am still trying to figure out why I can't view any video on You Tube .
Could you, or Mathew, explain Mathew's words in photo-diagrams or a video demonstration?
Jeff.
Perhaps a demonstration on a horizontal plane will help.
As in swinging a baseball bat, anything hit before low point ( which in this example is when the bat is perpendicular to home plate-second base line) goes out to the right.
Try this drill. Hold your right arm out in front of you at shoulder level, palm facing 'second base'.
Now move your arm back, so your palm is facing about half way between 1st and 2nd base (out to the right)
Without moving your arm, arch your right wrist so that the palm faces second base.
The amount your right arm is moved back is directly related to how much you have to arch your right wrist. In other words, the more out to the right, or 'up plane', the more hook face (arch need to get back to 'square').
The same is true on an angled plane.
Keep in mind, this drill has the arm representing the club's design, we want a bent right wrist in G.O.L.F.!
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Perhaps a demonstration on a horizontal plane will help.
As in swinging a baseball bat, anything hit before low point ( which in this example is when the bat is perpendicular to home plate-second base line) goes out to the right.
Try this drill. Hold your right arm out in front of you at shoulder level, palm facing 'second base'.
Now move your arm back, so your palm is facing about half way between 1st and 2nd base (out to the right)
Without moving your arm, arch your right wrist so that the palm faces second base.
The amount your right arm is moved back is directly related to how much you have to arch your right wrist. In other words, the more out to the right, or 'up plane', the more hook face (arch need to get back to 'square').
The same is true on an angled plane.
Keep in mind, this drill has the arm representing the club's design, we want a bent right wrist in G.O.L.F.!
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What implications, if any, are there to the golfer? Given a club face pointed at the target and a lot of out and down after impact.
The way I understand Hook face as learnt from videos of Yoda-
The golf swing is a down and out (until low point) stroke. The hook face iron clubs does the work avoiding the ball goes right.
The Driver doesn’t have much hook face. So, if we place the ball back in the stance, where the ball goes? So, this icon shows us where the ball should place when we use the big stick.
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Though the 45 inch driver have 57-60 * lie angle, its more "hooked" than we know it ...
I think the trackman shows the ball can be hit on the downswing , level and even few degree on the upswing . we can play an 11* on the slight downswing or 8.5 on the slight upswing and get the same launch height but different spin numbers.
As long as we could get the ball leaving the face square to the path .. should hit a straight shot relative to where the path moves. say 4 deg to the left , but face square to the target .. 4 deg of Openness to path to contribute to slice spin.. thus it actually could be its easier to hook by placing the ball slightly back of stance because its easier to hit In-to-out path....
Regarding the side spin. the ball will have side spin and backspin. the wedge have the highest backspin and driver lowest backspin. But say given for both shot we have the equal amount of 3000 rpm side spin.. the wedge will give a small fade, but the Driver will give a pretty big slice. because the relationship, ie Ratio of backspin and sidespin will affect overall flight and if the sidespin overcome the backspin than the ball hits the neighbour... ie 3000 sidespin / 2000 backspin = 1.5:1 .. vs 3000 sidespin/13000 backspin... all physics... But the exact relationship... not so sure.. but you get the general idea why..
That makes the driver MUCH harder to hit. even much harder than a 3 woods. thus to keep the ball in the fairway, slightly higher spin is beneficial for driver. and higher loft ....
Though The driver being longer need a slightly longer time in order to reach the IN-Line conditions. Thus the "aiming point" is a touch back , OR , the ball position is a touch towards the target...
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More so on the shorter clubs less so on the longer ones due to the loft.
Put your finger on the sweet spot of a wedge and see how far behind the shaft it is now do the same with a driver. Big difference.
Now with the wedge align the sweet spot up with the shaft (close the face until they are inline) and you will see the amount of "hook face" build into the club.
During impact the sweet spot aligns itself with the shaft producing the hook face.
More so on the shorter clubs less so on the longer ones due to the loft.
Put your finger on the sweet spot of a wedge and see how far behind the shaft it is now do the same with a driver. Big difference.
Now with the wedge align the sweet spot up with the shaft (close the face until they are inline) and you will see the amount of "hook face" build into the club.
During impact the sweet spot aligns itself with the shaft producing the hook face.
Its that simple.
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More so on the shorter clubs less so on the longer ones due to the loft.
Put your finger on the sweet spot of a wedge and see how far behind the shaft it is now do the same with a driver. Big difference.
Now with the wedge align the sweet spot up with the shaft (close the face until they are inline) and you will see the amount of "hook face" build into the club.
During impact the sweet spot aligns itself with the shaft producing the hook face.
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shows us where the ball should place when we use the big stick.
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