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Old 08-01-2008, 02:06 AM
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If the ball leaves the face at 90 degrees to the leading edge . . . . don't it have to be open to get it to start right of the target line and draw back? Or is you hittin' pull draws?

What is the disease of the flat right wrist?

Boogers taste like chicken.

Your talking open in relation to the eventual "end target"- absolutely. But for a draw the leading edge would need to be closed to the clubhead path. All a little outside of my comments on Toolish.

What is the disease of the flat right wrist? I answered that in the posts above. However, if you'd a different answer- scientist now believe that eating boogers- can cause the flattening of the right wrist.
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Your talking open in relation to the eventual "end target"- absolutely. But for a draw the leading edge would need to be closed to the clubhead path. All a little outside of my comments on Toolish.

What is the disease of the flat right wrist? I answered that in the posts above. However, if you'd a different answer- scientist now believe that eating boogers- can cause the flattening of the right wrist.
Have you been drinking out of the toilet bowl again?

Please watch the head movement in the face on sequence . . . I think that's where it's coming from. The head movement would also be a symptom so I'd say it's via the pivot components. BUT this is is a VERY VERY nice motion.
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Have you been drinking out of the toilet bowl again?

Please watch the head movement in the face on sequence . . . I think that's where it's coming from. The head movement would also be a symptom so I'd say it's via the pivot components. BUT this is is a VERY VERY nice motion.
Just me- I'm not really worried about head movement.
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Just me- I'm not really worried about head movement.
Are your misses pull draw/hooks and blocks? I see off plane inside shoulder turn take away - forcing the left swing down. Get the club up the plane and down the plane. Try some left arm only pure swings.
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Just me- I'm not really worried about head movement.
Lunatic 1 to Lunatic 2 to Lunatic 3 . . .

Why would you not be worried about head movement?

I'm not saying that head movement is the end all be all . . . BUT the head indicates what the pivot maybe doing . . . TO THE LOW POINT . . . . AND . . . IF THE HEAD HANGS BACK THE PIVOT STALLS THE ARMS RUN AWAY AND THE FACE SHUTS FAST . . . Massive rotor just stalled out and everything else goes out and away.

I may have to get that human head in the fridge wild eyed look, drink a lot of coffee, smoke some cigs and make a youtube video . . . .

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post
Lunatic 1 to Lunatic 2 to Lunatic 3 . . .

Why would you not be worried about head movement?

I'm not saying that head movement is the end all be all . . . BUT the head indicates what the pivot maybe doing . . . TO THE LOW POINT . . . . AND . . . IF THE HEAD HANGS BACK THE PIVOT STALLS THE ARMS RUN AWAY AND THE FACE SHUTS FAST . . . Massive rotor just stalled out and everything else goes out and away.

I may have to get that human head in the fridge wild eyed look, drink a lot of coffee, smoke some cigs and make a youtube video . . . .

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Absolutely, if you have a major head problem then you would look to see why your head is hanging back and then make the correction.
That said I wouldn't consider Toolish to have any major head motion problem- at least I would see other issues directly that may cause any head motion issues that you are seeing.

Glad to see we agree on this What's next?
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Dr. Earless one to be,
put down the meth pipe and stop the obsession with the head-
Absolutely, if you have a major head problem then you would look to see why your head is hanging back and then make the correction.
That said I wouldn't consider Toolish to have any major head motion problem- at least I would see other issues directly that may cause any head motion issues that you are seeing.

Glad to see we agree on this What's next?
bottom line . . . . Saved this deal and did a slowmo freeze frame deal.

too much hang back or tilt or whatever . . . . causes the right wrist to be thrown because the pivot is stalled.

fix . . .

go FORWARD . . .

That would be the bucket analysis anyhow.

this dude has some MAJOR good pieces in his motion. Arms work nice . . . pivot works nice just doesn't have his upper body forward enough and as result the hands don't look educated but I have a feeling his hands know what to do they just can work because of the pivot. Low point gets compromised because he doesn't get his tilt forward enough.

That's what I got.
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Old 08-03-2008, 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post
bottom line . . . . Saved this deal and did a slowmo freeze frame deal.

too much hang back or tilt or whatever . . . . causes the right wrist to be thrown because the pivot is stalled.

fix . . .

go FORWARD . . .

That would be the bucket analysis anyhow.

this dude has some MAJOR good pieces in his motion. Arms work nice . . . pivot works nice just doesn't have his upper body forward enough and as result the hands don't look educated but I have a feeling his hands know what to do they just can work because of the pivot. Low point gets compromised because he doesn't get his tilt forward enough.

That's what I got.
I'm with ya - but I'd see the pivot stopping or hanging back as a sympton and not a direct cause. So I wouldn't have as the primary correction- moving more forward on it. But I see the sympton that you are talking about and it is certainly one of many- Now that we agree - What else can we argue about?
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