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Old 10-31-2008, 05:17 PM
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Use e.g. a V1 software. Use the Spline feature. Use the same time intervals and mark hands position each time. You will see (no matter what golfer - used even Ben Hogan driver FO vid) that the hands are initially accelerating, then slowing a bit before coming into the impact zone.
I know that it's an imprecise tool but it rather confirms what Dante discovered, not your revelations, Nm.
I am very objective. Try it yourself before you start negate what I tried.

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Old 10-31-2008, 05:36 PM
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I believe Nesbit's test data not your V1 software spline feature.

Drawing on stills or footage never made any sense to me anyway .... parallax etc. But you're free to believe what every you want to believe.

There there are undoubtly some golfers who's hands slow down some (Nesbit measured some golfers whose hands did) but very very few golfers hands slow to the extent of Dante's stroboscope model.

Its not worth my time discussing this hand speed issue anymore (as you know it was beat to death on that other forum).... the DATA speaks for itself and the DATA SAYS GOLFERS HANDS DO NOT NECESSARILY SLOW DOWN BEFORE IMPACT. (see figure 4 in linked pdf) Read Nesbit's comments on matter. Either you believe it or you don't end of story.

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Use e.g. a V1 software. Use the Spline feature. Use the same time intervals and mark hands position each time. You will see (no matter what golfer - used even Ben Hogan driver FO vid) that the hands are initially accelerating, then slowing a bit before coming into the impact zone.
I know that it's an imprecise tool but it rather confirms what Dante discovered, not your revelations, Nm.
I am very objective. Try it yourself before you start negate what I tried.

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Old 10-31-2008, 06:04 PM
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It's not the question of my belief. I always tried to be objective and love the objective truth. Thus, I take seriously Mr.Nesbit's researches as well as e.g. Mr.Dante's ones. However, there is no final evidence for one or the other theory - otherwise, the discussion on this or the other forum would not have been necessary.
You can laugh at my V1 trial - and I understand it because I myself stated that it's a imprecise tool - but, it shows what it shows. This is what I wanted to say, nothing more.

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Old 10-31-2008, 07:35 PM
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It's not the question of my belief. I always tried to be objective and love the objective truth. Thus, I take seriously Mr.Nesbit's researches as well as e.g. Mr.Dante's ones. However, there is no final evidence for one or the other theory - otherwise, the discussion on this or the other forum would not have been necessary.
You can laugh at my V1 trial - and I understand it because I myself stated that it's a imprecise tool - but, it shows what it shows. This is what I wanted to say, nothing more.

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To some I'm sure many questions remain unresolved. I'm not sure specifically what those questions are though.

COAM has absolutely nothing to do with either the release in particular of the golf swing in general. Furhermore not all golfers hands slow dow before impact. Nesbits data proves it. These are statements of FACT not opinion. In otherwords that IS the truth but then some people cannot handle the truth, particulary if it does not fit with their preconceptions It doesn't matter to me what you or anyone else choose believe. Have a good weekend.

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Old 10-31-2008, 08:17 PM
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OK, give me a link to a FO vid of a golfer that accelerates hands linear velocity - I'll convert it and compare to my YouTube findings. I am sure you know, at least, names of golfers whose hands are not slowing down. Have a great weekend too.

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