Switting like knitting can get you into a tangled mess! TGM to me is a lot about keeping what is seperate and distinct, seperate and distinct...kinda like linen ain't cotton, and a cow ain't an ass! If you understand the seperate identities i.e. you actually know what you are doing...then I think Mr. Kelley himself would wish you well! I think for all but the talented "body" mixing ain't fixing. "Can we rescue a word and discover a universe?" - Edwyn Hoskyns. To me HK gave us a working vocabulary rooted in reality (semantic hair splitting aside.) A vernacular by which we could articulate "what Is" thereby creating a distinction from "what seems as if" This is I imagine why he never dealt in dogma as it related to specific patterns. He gave us a box of workable parts and said go forth and build! We build knowing that by law it is structurally sound! I am glad however for Yoda telling us what the man would do if he were just starting to play golf!
Switting like knitting can get you into a tangled mess! TGM to me is a lot about keeping what is seperate and distinct, seperate and distinct...kinda like linen ain't cotton, and a cow ain't an ass! If you understand the seperate identities i.e. you actually know what you are doing...then I think Mr. Kelley himself would wish you well! I think for all but the talented "body" mixing ain't fixing. "Can we rescue a word and discover a universe?" - Edwyn Hoskyns. To me HK gave us a working vocabulary rooted in reality (semantic hair splitting aside.) A vernacular by which we could articulate "what Is" thereby creating a distinction from "what seems as if" This is I imagine why he never dealt in dogma as it related to specific patterns. He gave us a box of workable parts and said go forth and build! We build knowing that by law it is structurally sound! I am glad however for Yoda telling us what the man would do if he were just starting to play golf!
lets see if in reality whats seems if or what is. Top 10 in world can you list the pure swingers and pure hitters ? and why
So how about the right shoulder in all this? (pivot thrust, right/left independence/cooperative issue)
An on plane right shoulder in the downstroke is just as important as an on plane right forearm, don't you think?
How do you incorporate an on plane right shoulder in your downstroke, swinging? Is it simply look, look, look for swingers, or do some use it actively as hitters do, as a brace etc..
I am a compulsive eater as well! I am just adhering to the seperate identities expressed in TGM! But you have exposed my lack of research in the realm of what the best actually do! HK even maintained that it was not an easy task to distinguish a hitter from a swinger...and I guess a switter as well! I used to be a enthusiatic observer of the strokes of the top players...not so much any more. I have learned that what I see is not always what is happening. So I capitulate!
You wrote-: "Study 7-3 in depth .. less ability to push with a pitch elbow .. that's correct.. but doesn't mean a swinger have can't PUSH in the bottom of the swing. the missing piece is the dynamic pivot motion, the arm can't move very far ... can they?"
Why would a swinger want to push at the "bottom" if he has an optimized release of PA #4 and PA #2? If those two PAs are optimally released in a sequential manner then the club is traveling at maximum speed during the pre-impact phase of the swing. How can one increase the clubhead speed by applying a push action in the later downswing? If one applies a push action via active release of PA#1 just before the club reaches the delivery position via pressure at PP#3, then the club could be induced to travel erratically because one will have interfered with the natural physics of the release action. Also, if one can induce the left arm to travel faster in the late downswing via active force-pressure at PP#1, then one cannot have performed the pivot action correctly - because an optimized pivot action should easily be able to provide enough power to catapult the left arm into impact at a sufficient speed (enough power to fully release PA #4)
Biomechanic
I don't think that Chris Welch of Xenolink or the researchers at TPI can measure active release of PA #1 at the bottom of the swing (whatever you mean by "bottom"). I believe that a researcher would have to insert muscle probes into the right triceps muscle to measure its degree of active contraction at the "bottom" of the swing to differentiate between active release of PA#1 and passive release of PA#1.
How can one increase the clubhead speed by applying a push action in the later downswing?
I see it like this:
Imagine you are in a center of a rotating merry go round.
Your flying wedges are set, horizontal to the ground: your right forearm is on plane of the rotating merry go round).
You are halfway in the downswing.
Your right elbow bent and in a push condition.
If you stay static in this position, your clubhead travels at the angular speed of the merry go round (this is your body power).
And to your point of view, your whole Power Package is static and ready to be fired as a hitter.
If you now drive with your right arm, your clubhead will travel at the angular speed of the merry go round PLUS the speed of the thrust
As Biomechanics says:
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Tour players hit at the bottom to get better compression and distance,produce better ball flight,
switter will smoke it past a swinger or hitter every time.
I confirm from my experience that this is a HUGE difference: a real gain in distance + deadly accuracy.
Really impressive.
The key is to blast the whole power package set in its pushing condition instead of only the left arm.
Also, I'm pretty sure that if your merry go round decelerates before impact, you won't be able to catch up the primary lever assembly with your right arm thrust as it separates from the chest (not a problem in a swing and supposed to work like that), resulting in some kind of strange throwaway feel!
"If you stay static in this position, your clubhead travels at the angular speed of the merry go round (this is your body power). And to your point of view, your whole Power Package is static and ready to be fired as a hitter.
If you now drive with your right arm, your clubhead will travel at the angular speed of the merry go round PLUS the speed of the thrust."
What you seem to be saying is that the pivot-thrust throws the power package assembly intact at a certain rotational speed and that you can increase the speed of the clubhead by an active release of PA #1.
However, I understand the pivot-thrust as more than a throw of the intact power package assembly down to waist level. I see the pivot-thrust of a swinger as catapulting the left arm off the chest wall so that the left arm travels faster than the pivot thrust (merry-go-round) and then sequentially having the PA#2 release via centrifugal action so that the clubhead travels much faster than both the merry-go-round or the left arm (which is traveling faster than the merry-go-round due to the complete release of PA#4). Under those optimized conditions, I cannot understand how adding right arm thrust (active release of PA #1) can increase clubhead speed.
Hybrid Mode
