I fully agree that the right forearm should be "on-plane"' at impact and aligned behind the shaft along the elbow plane. However, I think that the right forearm also has "magic" throughout the downswing. It not only acts (together with the bent right wrist and PP#3) to direct the clubshaft into impact, but it also acts to keep the clubshaft on plane throughout the entire downswing. I think that's also part of its "magic". Also, if one uses a right forearm takeaway, it is possible for the right forearm (through its three dimensional motion in space) to keep the clubshaft on-plane during the backswing. That means that the right forearm has "magic" in the backswing as well. That's why I was posing this question - I am trying to understand the conceptual extent of the "magic of the right forearm" in different golfer's minds.
. . . I think that the right forearm also has "magic" throughout the downswing. It not only acts (together with the bent right wrist and PP#3) to direct the clubshaft into impact, but it also acts to keep the clubshaft on plane throughout the entire downswing. I think that's also part of its "magic".
[Additional bold emphasis by Yoda.]
Right you are, Jeff (as usual, after your own 'proof positives'). Moreover, the Right Forearm supports the On Plane Loading and Release motions of the Sweetspot (and #3 Pressure Point / Right Forefinger) without itself being On Plane.
Right you are, Jeff (as usual, after your own 'proof positives'). Moreover, the Right Forearm supports the On Plane Loading and Release motions of the Sweetspot (and #3 Pressure Point / Right Forefinger) withoutitself being On Plane.
Besides the supporting role, at which points exactlyMUST the right forearm also be on plane and at which points is it "allowed" to depart from being on plane, assuming it will not compromise its supporting roll ?
Besides the supporting role, at which points exactlyMUST the right forearm also be on plane and at which points is it "allowed" to depart from being on plane, assuming it will not compromise its supporting roll ?
The Right Forearm will be on Plane when the Right Elbow is On Plane; Release to Follow Through.
Thanks Drewit. Would the Release begin when the #2 accumulator begins releasing, say for a Swinger ?
The Release triggers into action ALL the Power Accumulators employed. If you are using, per 10-4, a Single Barrel (#2 alone) or Double Barrel Accumulator Combination (#2 and #3) then Release would occur as you describe. Both being low power strokes.
However, I don't believe I have answered your question in the context you mean it. As you refering to Release Motions in 4-D-0 and the Sequenced Release of the Swinger or the normally employed Swinger's Three Barrel (4-2-3) Total Motion Stroke Pattern (in which case the Release of #4 would precede #2)?
The Release triggers into action ALL the Power Accumulators employed. If you are using, per 10-4, a Single Barrel (#2 alone) or Double Barrel Accumulator Combination (#2 and #3) then Release would occur as you describe. Both being low power strokes.
However, I don't believe I have answered your question in the context you mean it. As you refering to Release Motions in 4-D-0 and the Sequenced Release of the Swinger or the normally employed Swinger's Three Barrel (4-2-3) Total Motion Stroke Pattern (in which case the Release of #4 would precede #2)?
I took a quick look at the yellow book before I wrote my post and saw the
4-D-0 that you mentioned and this is where I came up with the Release beginning when #2 starts to release.
BUT what I am really after, in case your answer is different would be for a 4,2,3 Three Barrel swing. The question for this is "When should the right forearm begin to be on-plane" ?
Yoda - you wrote-: "the Right Forearm supports the On Plane Loading".
You are right. I forgot about that point. I now recall one of your archived posts where you wrote about a strut supporting an airplane wing (which is a good analogy).
To summarise what is meant by the term "Magic of the Right forearm" it includes-:
1) The right forearm supports the on-plane loading of the primary lever assembly in hitters and the secondary lever assembly in swingers.
2) It acts together with the bent right wrist and PP#3 to keep the clubshaft on-plane throughout the entire downswing (via tracing the SPL action).
3) It gets on-plane as it paddlewheels into impact thus supporting the clubshaft at impact.
I think that one can see the 'magic of the right forearm" in action in Stuart Appleby's swing.
I produced the following series of capture images from that video and highlighted the right upper limb in red so that one can concentrate one's visual attention on the right forearm.
Backwsing
It looks like he is using a right forearm takeaway in images 2 and 3. It looks like his right forearm is supporting the load of the secondary lever assembly in image 5. Image 4 shows how the right forearm takeaway can keep the clubshaft on-plane during the mid-backswing.
Downswing
Images 1, 2 and 3 show how the right forearm acts to keep the clubshaft on-plane during the downswing.
Images 4 and 5 show how the right forearm paddlewheels to an on-plane position behind the clubshaft as it nears impact.
Yoda - you wrote-: "the Right Forearm supports the On Plane Loading".
I think that one can see the 'magic of the right forearm" in action in Stuart Appleby's swing.
Great stuff, Jeff. Thank you so much for your out-of-the-ordinary contributions.
Besides the supporting role, at which points exactlyMUST the right forearm also be on plane and at which points is it "allowed" to depart from being on plane, assuming it will not compromise its supporting roll ?
Thats a great question. Understanding exactly when the RF is on plane, when it diverges and realigns seems crucial for alignment golf.
I think many of us understand where it must be at times, but not all the time, and that incomplete understanding leads to fog/confusion.
Further, I think we would benefit from understanding 'RF alignment through the swing' of pro players whose RF's are not on plane with the shaft at address.