Clubshaft Alignment At the Top

[jwelwell15]

I'm pretty new to the The Golf Machine and all it's the prinicples. But, to me it seems that Player is swinging on a flatter plane than the others and his right elbow is slighty more in front of his chest. Thus, it isn't possible for him to cross the line at the top as the other three appear to do, unless we were to keep rotating. If what I'm saying makes no sense, I'd appreciate some constructive criticism.

[O.B.Left]

Is the camera on the plane that you want to observe? Here's the same location in the stroke, from three different perspectives.

Luke, what an observation! Ya, like the caddy view of a golfer showing more left wrist cock than is maybe really there when he moves to a shallower plane in start down. More angle to his float loading. Never took that parallax idea anywhere else in the swing. Thanks. Is your model on plane in all three? The last one has me wondering.

What is this system Dude. I know you can animate it, if only by a multitude of screen captures. I know you can move the camera around. But can you draw tracer lines, planes, beams of light?

Are you about to blow our minds with multiple angle, 3D explanations of machine concepts we can only now scratch our heads about?

Bet Homer is smiling right now.

O.B.

[O.B.Left]

I'm pretty new to the The Golf Machine and all it's the prinicples. But, to me it seems that Player is swinging on a flatter plane than the others and his right elbow is slighty more in front of his chest. Thus, it isn't possible for him to cross the line at the top as the other three appear to do, unless we were to keep rotating. If what I'm saying makes no sense, I'd appreciate some constructive criticism.

Welcome Jwelwell.

Yes, nice one, for sure Player's plane is flatter. His left arm is pointing right at the camera lens while the others are to varying degrees above it.

Its hard to compare them exactly though as I'm sure the golfers and the camera are moving around a bit. They'd never lock it off, probably hand held or maybe on a tripod. Shell's WWG was way ahead of its time with camera men standing on the roofs of trucks. I wouldnt be surprised if this fellow is doing something like that. That's his shadow probably in the bottoms of frame 2 and 3, I think. His head and the camera's 16 mm magazine.

My gut is telling me that Player's laid off a touch. Jack is more on his left side despite his foot angle.

O.B.Left

[mb6606]

Seems like Arnie, Jack and Mike have the shaft parallel to their stance line.
Knwing how great Jack was and how he played a fade and from viewing other swings of Jack I believe he was pretty close to on plane. Go to the 36 second mark of the clip below.

[YodasLuke]

Luke, what an observation! Ya, like the caddy view of a golfer showing more left wrist cock than is maybe really there when he moves to a shallower plane in start down. More angle to his float loading. Never took that parallax idea anywhere else in the swing. Thanks. Is your model on plane in all three? The last one has me wondering.

What is this system Dude. I know you can animate it, if only by a multitude of screen captures. I know you can move the camera around. But can you draw tracer lines, planes, beams of light?

Are you about to blow our minds with multiple angle, 3D explanations of machine concepts we can only now scratch our heads about?

Bet Homer is smiling right now.

O.B.

I wish it was my system. I've asked Santa for an Aston Martin Vanquish or a 3-D system. I'm not sure what I'm getting.

Each one of my images is the exact same frame, but each is a different 'camera' location. It’s amazing how different they can look. One would assume that Player swung a little flatter than Nicklaus. So, which one had the camera in the right place?

It makes you a skeptic of any picture, if you're not sure where the camera was located, relative to the intended plane of motion.

[DOCW3]

"At the top of the backswing I want the club to parallel the line along which it will swing at impact." Golf My Way-Chapter 3

Is Player's target line different from the other three suggesting our view of him is at a different angle? Possibly he did not have the carry length required for the line selected by the others.

DRW

[12 piece bucket]

I wish it was my system. I've asked Santa for an Aston Martin Vanquish or a 3-D system. I'm not sure what I'm getting.

Each one of my images is the exact same frame, but each is a different 'camera' location. It’s amazing how different they can look. One would assume that Player swung a little flatter than Nicklaus. So, which one had the camera in the right place?

It makes you a skeptic of any picture, if you're not sure where the camera was located, relative to the intended plane of motion.

3-D pawno?

[12 piece bucket]

Welcome Jwelwell.

Yes, nice one, for sure Player's plane is flatter. His left arm is pointing right at the camera lens while the others are to varying degrees above it.

Its hard to compare them exactly though as I'm sure the golfers and the camera are moving around a bit. They'd never lock it off, probably hand held or maybe on a tripod. Shell's WWG was way ahead of its time with camera men standing on the roofs of trucks. I wouldnt be surprised if this fellow is doing something like that. That's his shadow probably in the bottoms of frame 2 and 3, I think. His head and the camera's 16 mm magazine.

My gut is telling me that Player's laid off a touch. Jack is more on his left side despite his foot angle.

O.B.Left

I think you'd get a better perspective of plane on the startdown . . . You'd see different hand locations and amounts of hip slide.

[Mike O]

"At the top of the backswing I want the club to parallel the line along which it will swing at impact." Golf My Way-Chapter 3

Is Player's target line different from the other three suggesting our view of him is at a different angle? Possibly he did not have the carry length required for the line selected by the others.

DRW

10th hole at Pauma Valley- Straight Away- it's the same carry line regardless of how you hit the ball.

[12 piece bucket]

And if you watch the footage that picture is NOT the top of Player's backstroke.