Are you saying swinging from the wrists is in TGM, as a method not a fault? Surely not.
I can only say that my game has gone to another level since I rid myself of any traces of this. I encourage others to seek out the meaning of "swing the hands not the clubhead" as it it meant in a TGM sense. Do it today!
I suppose Mr Jones could have another meaning attached to a very similar phrase. As could Eddy Merrins, "swing the handle"?
But Ill play along. Who then and in what Ernest Jones like manner is represented in TGM? I havent read it.
Are you saying swinging from the wrists is in TGM, as a method not a fault?
Originally Posted by Delaware Golf
10-24-E Wrist Throw.
Component Variation 10-24-E is the Automatic Snap Release. It may or may not be actuated by the Wrist Throw Release Trigger (10-20-E). These two Variations are often paired (especially for Swingers), but they are not the same. In any event, by definition, the Wrist Throw Release Trigger is executed at Release, not during the Start Down.
In contrast, "Swinging from the Wrist" (6-H-0-B / Hand Action Imperatives / First three editions) is the Hand Throw Release Trigger (10-20-A) which is executing the Release of the Left Wristcock (#2 Accumulator) immediately during the Start Down. This early Action produces too long a Release Interval -- "big" pulley wheel per Sketch 2-K-#6 and 7-23 -- and as a result, the Clubhead passes the Hands prior to Impact. This the classic Throwaway Sequence of Wrist Action, Overacceleration and Quitting (6-D-0/1/2/3).
In the first three editions, the Throwaway sequence was listed in a different order: Overacceleration, Wrist Action and Quitting. These mirrored the Three Hand Action Imperatives of 6-H-0 (which Homer wrote in 'All caps' for emphasis):
A. ALLOW NOT THE SLIGHTEST UNINTENTIONAL CHANGE OF PRESSURE POINT PRESSURE.
B. ALLOW NOT THE SLIGHTEST MOVE TO SWING THE CLUB FROM THE WRIST;
C. ALLOW NOT THE SLIGHTEST PREPARATION TO BRING THE HANDS TO A STOP.
In other words, the slightest 'pushing away' (7-19) with the right forefinger (#3 Pressure Point) from the Top triggers the early Release of the Left Wristcock and ultimately, Quitting. This is what is so insidious about an incorrect concept of 'Swing the Clubhead': Almost all golfers slow or stop their Hands during Release and flip the Clubhead past them through Impact. They "flip and swish the club around haphazardly" (3-F-6). They do it on short shots; they do it on long shots; and they do it from the Practice Tee to the 19th Hole. That is why they don't improve.
The correct concept is found in 6-G-0 (Hand Motion):
All motion is focused on driving the Hands -- NOT THE CLUB -- toward the BALL. This may, with habit, seem to become reversed. But this is where and how a player's game "comes apart". The cure is to return to the original primary concen -- the Hands and their Clubhead Lag, Flat Left Wrist and Plane Line.
. . .
Learn to hit the Ball with Hand manipulation rather than with Clubhead manipulation and your game is less likely to keep falling apart.
George Knudson believed Sam Snead misinterpreted the feel of a pull of the left hand. George believed the transfer of weight from the right foot to the left foot caused this misperception because the player was not pulling but being pulled and the feel of a pull was the effects of centrifugal force. He claimed if you consciously pull, you will destroy your swing plane.
[quote=strav;61768 The truth is a slippery little devil![/QUOTE]
So true. The pro's often cant describe what it is they are actually doing. Yesterday I watched a tape of Ken Venturi conducting a clinic in 1960 wherein he maintained the most important element of the swing to be a one piece takeaway with club, left hand and left shoulder staying strictly in line. He was so adamant that he mentioned it more than several times. When slowing down his back swing what did I see..........a beautiful lagging takeaway!
How did Mr Kelley figure all of this out? The more I know of him and the more I understand his work, the more I am amazed. A true genius.
Component Variation 10-24-E is the Automatic Snap Release. It may or may not be actuated by the Wrist Throw Release Trigger (10-20-E). These two Variations are often paired (especially for Swingers), but they are not the same. In any event, by definition, the Wrist Throw Release Trigger is executed at Release, not during the Start Down.
In contrast, "Swinging from the Wrist" (6-H-0-B / Hand Action Imperatives / First three editions) is the Hand Throw Release Trigger (10-20-A) which is executing the Release of the Left Wristcock (#2 Accumulator) immediately during the Start Down. This early Action produces too long a Release Interval -- "big" pulley wheel per Sketch 2-K-#6 and 7-23 -- and as a result, the Clubhead passes the Hands prior to Impact. This the classic Throwaway Sequence of Wrist Action, Overacceleration and Quitting (6-D-0/1/2/3).
In the first three editions, the Throwaway sequence was listed in a different order: Overacceleration, Wrist Action and Quitting. These mirrored the Three Hand Action Imperatives of 6-H-0 (which Homer wrote in 'All caps' for emphasis):
A. ALLOW NOT THE SLIGHTEST UNINTENTIONAL CHANGE OF PRESSURE POINT PRESSURE.
B. ALLOW NOT THE SLIGHTEST MOVE TO SWING THE CLUB FROM THE WRIST;
C. ALLOW NOT THE SLIGHTEST PREPARATION TO BRING THE HANDS TO A STOP.
In other words, the slightest 'pushing away' (7-19) with the right forefinger (#3 Pressure Point) from the Top triggers the early Release of the Left Wristcock and ultimately, Quitting. This is what is so insidious about an incorrect concept of 'Swing the Clubhead': Almost all golfers slow or stop their Hands during Release and flip the Clubhead past them through Impact. They "flip and swish the club around haphazardly" (3-F-6). They do it on short shots; they do it on long shots; and they do it from the Practice Tee to the 19th Hole. That is why they don't improve.
The correct concept is found in 6-G-0 (Hand Motion):
All motion is focused on driving the Hands -- NOT THE CLUB -- toward the BALL. This may, with habit, seem to become reversed. But this is where and how a player's game "comes apart". The cure is to return to the original primary concen -- the Hands and their Clubhead Lag, Flat Left Wrist and Plane Line.
. . .
Learn to hit the Ball with Hand manipulation rather than with Clubhead manipulation and your game is less likely to keep falling apart.
Yoda,
Per 10-19-C Swinging is a Lengthwise motion. "Drag Loading is the Rope Handle Technique of the "Swinger," an out-and-out PULL, striving to accelerate the Clubshaft lengthwise, from a quick Start Down to Release. Start the Club down as though it were being drawn from a quiver like an arrow--feathered end first. Maintain this motion until the Release switches ends." This is consistent with Tom Tomasello's and Sam Snead's instruction for SWINGNG. Tommy recommended 10-20-B, 10-20-C, 10-20-D and 10-20-E for Full golf swings not 10-20-A. Tom only recommended 10-20-A for chipping and putting....alone or in combination with 10-20-B as recommended in the book as a trigger combination.
Lengthwise - in the microsoft word Thesaurus...."End to End".
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 03-07-2009 at 12:37 PM.
Per 10-19-C Swinging is a Lengthwise motion. "Drag Loading is the Rope Handle Technique of the "Swinger," an out-and-out PULL, striving to accelerate the Clubshaft lengthwise, from a quick Start Down to Release. Start the Club down as though it were being drawn from a quiver like an arrow--feathered end first. Maintain this motion until the Release switches ends." This is consistent with Tom Tomasello's and Sam Snead's instruction for SWINGNG. Tommy recommended 10-20-B, 10-20-C, 10-20-D and 10-20-E for Full golf swings not 10-20-A. Tom only recommended 10-20-A for chipping and putting....alone or in combination with 10-20-B as recommended in the book as a trigger combination.
Lengthwise - in the microsoft word Thesaurus...."End to End".
I agree, including limiting the use of the Hand Throw to Chipping and Putting.
Component Variation 10-24-E is the Automatic Snap Release. It may or may not be actuated by the Wrist Throw Release Trigger (10-20-E). These two Variations are often paired (especially for Swingers), but they are not the same. In any event, by definition, the Wrist Throw Release Trigger is executed at Release, not during the Start Down.
In contrast, "Swinging from the Wrist" (6-H-0-B / Hand Action Imperatives / First three editions) is the Hand Throw Release Trigger (10-20-A) which is executing the Release of the Left Wristcock (#2 Accumulator) immediately during the Start Down. This early Action produces too long a Release Interval -- "big" pulley wheel per Sketch 2-K-#6 and 7-23 -- and as a result, the Clubhead passes the Hands prior to Impact. This the classic Throwaway Sequence of Wrist Action, Overacceleration and Quitting (6-D-0/1/2/3).
In the first three editions, the Throwaway sequence was listed in a different order: Overacceleration, Wrist Action and Quitting. These mirrored the Three Hand Action Imperatives of 6-H-0 (which Homer wrote in 'All caps' for emphasis):
A. ALLOW NOT THE SLIGHTEST UNINTENTIONAL CHANGE OF PRESSURE POINT PRESSURE.
B. ALLOW NOT THE SLIGHTEST MOVE TO SWING THE CLUB FROM THE WRIST;
C. ALLOW NOT THE SLIGHTEST PREPARATION TO BRING THE HANDS TO A STOP.
In other words, the slightest 'pushing away' (7-19) with the right forefinger (#3 Pressure Point) from the Top triggers the early Release of the Left Wristcock and ultimately, Quitting. This is what is so insidious about an incorrect concept of 'Swing the Clubhead': Almost all golfers slow or stop their Hands during Release and flip the Clubhead past them through Impact. They "flip and swish the club around haphazardly" (3-F-6). They do it on short shots; they do it on long shots; and they do it from the Practice Tee to the 19th Hole. That is why they don't improve.
The correct concept is found in 6-G-0 (Hand Motion):
All motion is focused on driving the Hands -- NOT THE CLUB -- toward the BALL. This may, with habit, seem to become reversed. But this is where and how a player's game "comes apart". The cure is to return to the original primary concen -- the Hands and their Clubhead Lag, Flat Left Wrist and Plane Line.
. . .
Learn to hit the Ball with Hand manipulation rather than with Clubhead manipulation and your game is less likely to keep falling apart.
Mr Yoda
Thanks for that post, it is great to hear earlier information that Homer edited out over the years
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