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Old 05-26-2009, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by EdZ View Post
To learn a solid takeaway, get into an address position without a club. Level right wrist. Right forearm flying wedge in place.

clap your hands, leaving the left hand and arm at impact. Let your right hip move 'back' (clear it)

As you make that clapping motion bigger, allow the right hand to turn so that at the 'top', you are in a karate chop 'on plane' position with the pinky side of the right hand.

practice returning both to a 'clap', as well as a 'karate chop' back to the left hand. The 'karate chop' will show you how the right shoulder moves down plane.
  1. Should we lift with the shoulder or bend at the elbow or both?
  2. If both, then how much elbow bend?
  3. What Muscles do I use?
  4. Which Muscles should I avoid? Why?
  5. How far back?
  6. How far Up?
  7. Where should my Right Elbow be?
  8. How Far should my Right Elbow extend from my Torso? My Hands?
  9. Should we try and get the Left Arm to lay Flat across the chest or at 45 degrees or somewhere in-between?
  10. When should we turn the Right Hand to the plane?
  11. When do I know that I've reach Top? Geometrically?
  12. When do I know that I've reached End? How can I tell?
  13. Should I change anything for a Half Swing?

Why not just use the Magic of the Right Forearm with Fanning and EA? This single grouped procedure tells the whole story, for everyone, every time.
  1. No guess-work.
  2. Totally Hands Controlled Pivot.
  3. No Planning.
  4. Every question answered.
  5. Fitted for every unique individual in the World.
  6. Fits all body types, perfectly.
  7. Male and Female - Unisex
  8. Use with any Component or Component Variation or Combination.
  9. Use with any Length Stroke.
  10. Available in Hitting and Swinging Configuration.
  11. Available Left and Right Handed.
  12. One Price, receive both options.
  13. Fits any lie or Stance options.
  14. No Adjustments necessary to Fade, Draw, Slice or Hook the Ball or hit it dead straight?
  15. No more Downstroke Black-out.
  16. Cures Over-the-Top moves instantly.
  17. Guaranteed to produce an on-plane Right Forearm at Release and Impact.
  18. Helps prevent Clubhead Throwaway.
  19. No need to Pause at the Top.
  20. Will add 10 pounds to your Lag Pressure.
  21. Why ask Why when you don't have to?

Precision G.O.L.F..

Magic of the Right Forearm by Homer Kelley

You'll want to get that Right Arm Insured. Insurance sold Separately.
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Old 05-26-2009, 05:36 PM
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Anyone like this swing?
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Old 05-26-2009, 05:43 PM
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Anyone like this swing?
Magic of the Right Forearm: from the Darkside.
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Old 05-26-2009, 05:54 PM
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Magic of the Right Forearm: from the Darkside.
Thought that you would like it...really nice take away and great wrist position pre impact....thwump!
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Old 05-26-2009, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by golfbulldog View Post
Thought that you would like it...really nice take away and great wrist position pre impact....thwump!
Impressive swing and compression. He looks like he stepped out of the Book. Great Release and Angled Hinge.

I like the hip motion at the take-away for the Hitter. It simplifies and supports and helps guide that right elbow from his centered hands at address. I don't understand why TGM 7th Edition has Delayed Hip Action.

Did he learn this on his own? I don't know how he could.
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Old 05-26-2009, 08:19 PM
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Love it!
Originally Posted by golfbulldog View Post
Thought that you would like it...really nice take away and great wrist position pre impact....thwump!
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Old 05-27-2009, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
  1. Should we lift with the shoulder or bend at the elbow or both?
  2. If both, then how much elbow bend?
  3. What Muscles do I use?
  4. Which Muscles should I avoid? Why?
  5. How far back?
  6. How far Up?
  7. Where should my Right Elbow be?
  8. How Far should my Right Elbow extend from my Torso? My Hands?
  9. Should we try and get the Left Arm to lay Flat across the chest or at 45 degrees or somewhere in-between?
  10. When should we turn the Right Hand to the plane?
  11. When do I know that I've reach Top? Geometrically?
  12. When do I know that I've reached End? How can I tell?
  13. Should I change anything for a Half Swing?

Why not just use the Magic of the Right Forearm with Fanning and EA? This single grouped procedure tells the whole story, for everyone, every time.
  1. No guess-work.
  2. Totally Hands Controlled Pivot.
  3. No Planning.
  4. Every question answered.
  5. Fitted for every unique individual in the World.
  6. Fits all body types, perfectly.
  7. Male and Female - Unisex
  8. Use with any Component or Component Variation or Combination.
  9. Use with any Length Stroke.
  10. Available in Hitting and Swinging Configuration.
  11. Available Left and Right Handed.
  12. One Price, receive both options.
  13. Fits any lie or Stance options.
  14. No Adjustments necessary to Fade, Draw, Slice or Hook the Ball or hit it dead straight?
  15. No more Downstroke Black-out.
  16. Cures Over-the-Top moves instantly.
  17. Guaranteed to produce an on-plane Right Forearm at Release and Impact.
  18. Helps prevent Clubhead Throwaway.
  19. No need to Pause at the Top.
  20. Will add 10 pounds to your Lag Pressure.
  21. Why ask Why when you don't have to?

Precision G.O.L.F..

Magic of the Right Forearm by Homer Kelley

You'll want to get that Right Arm Insured. Insurance sold Separately.
Wow Daryl, do you think that much when you walk or drive? (if so, what kind of car do you drive so I can avoid you on the roads)

It really is far simpler than your post!
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Old 05-27-2009, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by EdZ View Post
Wow Daryl, do you think that much when you walk or drive? (if so, what kind of car do you drive so I can avoid you on the roads)

It really is far simpler than your post!
My thinking is clearer and insightful when I Drive or walk, but I'm sitting when I post, which explains a lot of things I write.

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Bringing this thread back to life again.

At address I visualize the clubhead action through the ball to produce that shot. From there I try to establish or program the required pressurepoint alignments in the hands. And I try to reproduce those through impact.

Physically, I start the back stroke with the hands and the feet at the same time. Minimal pivot resistance in the early part of the back stroke is important to me. I've never been successfully starting the back stroke with the right forearm alone and I often have to be deliberate about starting the pivot together with the hands.

With the putter, I've been quite successful in visually monitoring the clubhead path throughout the stroke. Monitoring with real time adjustment. You have to see the line and you have to see the intended clubhead path on both sides of the ball - and you have to see the clubhead travel. It is a no-compromise solution where the end goal has 100% presedence over physics. Forget the hands, forget the arms, forget the pivot. Be the putter. It really works.
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I suffered for a very long time with turning back with my arms too tight to my body and everything went further haywire from there.
After a day with Yoda and reading Forums and The Book quite a bit and a ton of assistance from Kev Carter I had an epiphanous (sp?) moment with hands controlled pivot. I simply put my hands on the shelf where I wanted them. My left shoulder went under. Right shoulder went back. Butt pointed at the target line for the first time in years. Playing golf in the fall just got better and better. Kev recently pointed out my right hip wasn't getting out of the way. It does now.
Now it is -20 at night and barely above zero during the day. I still practice putting those hands on the shelf down in the dungeon.

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