One basic reason would be, all things being equal, a steeper shoulder plane would leave the face open, while a flatter shoulder plane would close the face prematurely.
One basic reason would be, all things being equal, a steeper shoulder plane would leave the face open, while a flatter shoulder plane would close the face prematurely.
Now there's an AhHah moment. The flatter shoulder turn would thereby promote hooking the ball? I have noticed, several instructors stating that lowering the right shoulder is necessary to tilt the hips improving the pivot. I think they are promoting a vertical drop of the right shoulder before the pivot rather than right shoulder travel down a plane to the ball. This is a bit confusing.
Right Shoulder is a HUGE GEOMETRY PIECE HUGE HUGE HUGE . . . Remember it is a part of the Power Package . . . A Right Shoulder that isn't moved with the correct amount of precision can cause plane line shifting and bending . . . the Hands can only do so much to overcome Shoulder Motion (steming from Knee Action, Hip Action, Axis Tilt) that isn't in compliance with the selected Plane Angle.
The Hands Direct the Pivot to
Move the Right Shoulder to
Move the Right Elbow to
Move the Right Forearm to
Direct the Hands.
Right Hand Clubhead
Left Hand Clubface
The Right Shoulder is the part of the Pivot that directs the entire Power Package. Force and Alignment in one component.
The Hands Direct the Pivot to
Move the Right Shoulder to
Move the Right Elbow to
Move the Right Forearm to
Direct the Hands.
Right Hand Clubhead
Left Hand Clubface
The Right Shoulder is the part of the Pivot that directs the entire Power Package. Force and Alignment in one component.
Right Shoulder is a HUGE GEOMETRY PIECE HUGE HUGE HUGE . . . Remember it is a part of the Power Package . . . A Right Shoulder that isn't moved with the correct amount of precision can cause plane line shifting and bending . . . the Hands can only do so much to overcome Shoulder Motion (steming from Knee Action, Hip Action, Axis Tilt) that isn't in compliance with the selected Plane Angle.
Couldn't agree more. An on plane right shoulder in the downswing is not an option, it is mandatory for Acquired to Full motions.
The hardest part for me was allowing the right shoulder to play it's proper role while Swinging - but Chuck Evan's vids over at Medicus eventually cleared the fog for me.
Couldn't agree more. An on plane right shoulder in the downswing is not an option, it is mandatory for Acquired to Full motions.
The hardest part for me was allowing the right shoulder to play it's proper role while Swinging - but Chuck Evan's vids over at Medicus eventually cleared the fog for me.
What is the title of the video over there?
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If you cannot take the shoulder down the clubshaft plane, you must take along some other path and add compensations - now, instead of one motion to remember, you wind up with at least two!
Just some thoughts. Plane Angles are alignments, not positions.
A three dimensional impact occurs when the Clubshaft revolves end over end and travels on that same plane. If you grabbed the grip of the club and throw the club so that it revolves end over end, it will seek to revolve in its own plane. Plane Shifts are hazardous. Any golfer that downshifts to the Elbow Plane should first drop the Clubshaft onto that plane. If not, you'll still have Impact, but not three-dimensional because the Clubshaft is jerked off plane.
Homer Kelley's Power Package has the Right Forearm Flying Wedge (Bent and Level Right Wrist) control both Alignments (end over end and within the same Plane). When the Right Shoulder Moves, it moves the Right Elbow. It must move the Right Elbow on the Plane of the Clubshaft so that the Right Forearm can support the Clubshaft through the Release and Impact intervals. Then, the Shaft will remain bent (stressed) at Impact.
So, the Alignment of the Clubshaft at the Top of the Backswing should be Pre-Aligned with whatever Impact Plane Angle you’ve chosen.
The Plane is whatever Inclined Angle the Clubshaft is revolving on. If you adopt the "Power Package" structure of the Golfing Machine, then according to the Theory, the Right Elbow will be On Plane when the Hands and Right Shoulder are On Plane. Actually, the Power Package has the Hands, Left Arm, Clubshaft and Right Elbow and Right Triceps muscle control the Right Shoulder Location. Then, design a Pivot to Push the Right Shoulder Down that Plane while allowing the Right forearm to be On Plane during the Release and Impact Intervals.
....Then, design a Pivot to Push the Right Shoulder Down that Plane while allowing the Right forearm to be On Plane during the Release and Impact Intervals.
That's along the lines of something else you said a while back;
"Going to the top of the swing should put your body in alignment to swing down."
That has been a major deal for me. It has brought me around to thinking things like "Why do you make a backswing? - So you can achieve proper impact alignments."
A backswing is a means to an end - no more.
So lately, I've been treating my backswing as just that, and the result is my head stays beautifully stationary, my old little slide right at startup is basically no longer a slide, and I can monitor my impact fix alignment through impact.
In the training course in the Full Swing section, as a hitter, Day 21 has three drills, as a swinger two. I'm sure there's some stuff in the pitch section too.
In the video vault, check out "Role of the Right Shoulder", "Shoulder Turn Throw" although the right shoulder is not mentioned specifically, "Right Shoulder Motion - Hitting vs Swinging", "Right Shoulder Direction".
I'm sure it's mentioned in several other vids about pivot and downstroke too.
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