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Old 06-19-2009, 05:09 PM
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thanks i understand what your saying and that is the way I have always understood it all these years. But reread my post as to why i think it could be different. Homer doesn't say fleshy pad he might have meant that thats why im trying to get clarification. He says first joint of index finger where it touches the shaft.
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Old 06-20-2009, 11:32 PM
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thanks i understand what your saying and that is the way I have always understood it all these years. But reread my post as to why i think it could be different. Homer doesn't say fleshy pad he might have meant that thats why im trying to get clarification. He says first joint of index finger where it touches the shaft.
BB . . . this is one of the finer points in the machine . . . It has to do with loading. The Swinger according to Mr. Kelley loads the shaft longitudinally. This is a big piece of how the pressure point is loaded. The Hitter is basically keeping the pressure on the aft side of the shaft. Where as the swinger particularly the swinger that goes to End vs. Top has the load fall on the knuckle as you describe. So the pressure is actually loaded. According to Mr. Kelley you can leave the pressure on the knuckle or as you come down let it return back to the fleshy pad. So you are correct in your analysis . . . with swinging the loading can change from the pad to the knuckle. So with hitting you are driving the aft portion of the shaft and the loading reflects that but with swinging you are pulling the length of the shaft so the top of the shaft falls on the knuckle (arrow outta the quiver deal).
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Old 06-20-2009, 11:55 PM
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thanks i understand what your saying and that is the way I have always understood it all these years. But reread my post as to why i think it could be different. Homer doesn't say fleshy pad he might have meant that thats why im trying to get clarification. He says first joint of index finger where it touches the shaft.
Using 10-2-B, with Standard Wrist Action, the First Joint of the Index Finger, where it touches the Shaft, is Aligned with the #2 Pressure Point. Swingers Load the #3 Pressure Point on the same line as the Left Wrist Cock (directly opposed to the Secondary Lever). Hitters do not, they Load against (don't shoot me) the Left Hand. Hitters Load against the Fleshy Part of the Index Finger.

If you use maximum #3 Accumulator Angle (in the Left Hand) and Release on the Elbow Plane, then the Pressure is likely to move against the Fleshy part of the Right index finger on the side of the Shaft (Aft Side because of Elbow Location). But, with a Small amount of #3 Accumulator angle and a Turned Shoulder Plane, the Pressure is likely, during Release, to remain against the First Knuckle of the Index Finger where it was Loaded on the Wrist Cock (Elbow Location a between the Belt Buckle and Right Side).

It's very interesting to note, that when using 10-2-B with 10-18-B (Double Wrist Action) that the Loading is against the Fleshy Part of the Right Index Finger. This is correct because the Fleshy part is on the same line as the Double Wrist Cock. Simultaneous Release with a Horizontal Hinge.

So, for a Swinger, the more Bent your Left Wrist at the Top of your Backswing, the more the shaft is against the Fleshy Part.
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Power in TGM is predicated on precision. How is it then that, after so long, a thread is still necessary to clear the fog on the #3 pressure point and the definition of "aft”? Couldn’t these points have been resolved long ago by using simple diagrams?
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Power in TGM is predicated on precision. How is it then that, after so long, a thread is still necessary to clear the fog on the #3 pressure point and the definition of "aft”? Couldn’t these points have been resolved long ago by using simple diagrams?
It's supposed to be a Pocket Book.

Ya know, just toss it in your Golf Bag. On the Sixteenth hole, if you have an issue, merely open the Book to page ?? and, ahhhhh,,,, use that procedure.

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Old 06-25-2009, 01:47 PM
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Power in TGM is predicated on precision. How is it then that, after so long, a thread is still necessary to clear the fog on the #3 pressure point and the definition of "aft”? Couldn’t these points have been resolved long ago by using simple diagrams?
Yes. And, Extensor Action should be part of Chapter Six; "Power Package".

The whole darn book should be re-written without changing a single concept or procedure. Color Pictures, Colored Overlays of the Flying Wedges, etc. 600 Pages. 25 bucks. Big deal.

A million Copies will be sold. It would become the standard text book for high school and college. Expanded and including video.

The current Owners can't see further than a Bull in a Cow Barn.

Don't get me started.
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Yes. And, Extensor Action should be part of Chapter Six; "Power Package".

The whole darn book should be re-written without changing a single concept or procedure. Color Pictures, Colored Overlays of the Flying Wedges, etc. 600 Pages. 25 bucks. Big deal.

A million Copies will be sold. It would become the standard text book for high school and college. Expanded and including video.

The current Owners can't see further than a Bull in a Cow Barn.

Don't get me started.
The material was gathered from public sources, elite golfers and their descriptions of their successful swings. Work backwards! Do a concise history of TGM and footnote the hell out of it. After each concept's history compare the editions and their presentations with how you would do it.

Don't beat them, commend them and offer a friendly suggestion or two. You have mad skills! Let the big dog eat!

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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
Yes. And, Extensor Action should be part of Chapter Six; "Power Package".

The whole darn book should be re-written without changing a single concept or procedure. Color Pictures, Colored Overlays of the Flying Wedges, etc. 600 Pages. 25 bucks. Big deal.

A million Copies will be sold. It would become the standard text book for high school and college. Expanded and including video.

The current Owners can't see further than a Bull in a Cow Barn.

Don't get me started.
you could keep doing your drawings,here on site which i find immensely helpful. When it comes to pp3 just take a photo and upload. YOU have the knowledge to help many, and its appreciated
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Yes. And, Extensor Action should be part of Chapter Six; "Power Package".

The whole darn book should be re-written without changing a single concept or procedure. Color Pictures, Colored Overlays of the Flying Wedges, etc. 600 Pages. 25 bucks. Big deal.

A million Copies will be sold. It would become the standard text book for high school and college. Expanded and including video.

The current Owners can't see further than a Bull in a Cow Barn.

Don't get me started.
Would make a great iPad app similar in execution to the Martha Stewart Cookie Cookbook (uh oh, losing my macho streetcred here...)
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whoa, did I say that? It sounds more like 12 pc Bucket than me.
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