Motionless right shoulder - LynnBlakeGolf Forums

Motionless right shoulder

The Other Game - Putting

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-20-2009, 01:16 PM
O.B.Left O.B.Left is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,433
Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
Glad you're experiencing your recent successes, laangels. Stay with us . . . there's more to come!

There are three Major Basic Strokes: Punch, Pitch and Push. Punch and Pitch demand Right Forearm/Elbow Fanning -- the Hands move around the Right Elbow -- and that Action begins immediately.

Only with Push is there no fanning. Instead, the Right Elbow is positioned in an 'up and out' location at Address, and the Hands are held between the Right Elbow and the Ball throughout the Stroke.

P-U-S-H.

A ponderous Action that produces very little distance in relation to the applied Thrust.


Great post.

Fanning begins immediately with Punch Elbow. This was a big revelation for me in my recent lesson with Yoda, as I had been employing a misguided Pushish Punch hybrid sort of elbow in Total Motion, too much Inline motion in Startup. Not a big Mr X move or anything. But I had a misconception about the Hitters Punch Elbow location in Total Motion having used Push Elbow in Basic Motion. Now I know better.

Yoda, do you care to comment on whether this early fanning can be pivot induced in Startup?

Last edited by O.B.Left : 06-20-2009 at 10:55 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-22-2009, 10:51 AM
okie's Avatar
okie okie is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 858
Rfata
This is driving me nuts at the moment. I understand in better detail how the right forearm is supposed to operate. I can describe it...I know at least 4 drills that help develop it...I can do it...SELDOM! I am so used to wheeling it with my shoulders, taking it back low and slow with my left arm etc. Years and years of executed ignorance. I am going to keep plugging away with it. I have what I have termed an "arm sway" meaning my head is pretty well stationary ( and better on the centered end) but my right arm actually straightens in startup...it is almost imperceptible (in fact the only evidence is my feel...constrasted with a well executed start-up) I am having a good time working it out...I know I am working on the right things
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-22-2009, 02:42 PM
KevCarter's Avatar
KevCarter KevCarter is offline
Lynn Blake Certified Associate
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 1,955
Okie,

I'm a bonehead rookie, not nearly as advanced in the machine as you...

I fight the exact same demons. What helps me is watching the Brian Gay video, over, and over, and over again. Not only his action, but Brian's and Mr. Yoda's words. They are real, they sink in, it's a LOOOONG process.

Quote:
For me, it all revolves around the right forearm.
I keep putting together magic right forearm documents, mostly from Yoda and the others here. It becomes a tangible thing and it works. Hard work exorcizing those demons, but worth every minute you spend!

Kevin
__________________

I could be wrong. I have been before, and will be again.

ALIGNMENT G.O.L.F.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-25-2009, 01:35 PM
O.B.Left O.B.Left is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,433
Originally Posted by okie View Post
This is driving me nuts at the moment. I understand in better detail how the right forearm is supposed to operate. I can describe it...I know at least 4 drills that help develop it...I can do it...SELDOM! I am so used to wheeling it with my shoulders, taking it back low and slow with my left arm etc. Years and years of executed ignorance. I am going to keep plugging away with it. I have what I have termed an "arm sway" meaning my head is pretty well stationary ( and better on the centered end) but my right arm actually straightens in startup...it is almost imperceptible (in fact the only evidence is my feel...constrasted with a well executed start-up) I am having a good time working it out...I know I am working on the right things
Here is how I deal with a similar habit of straightening the right elbow in start up:
-my old swing saw a pronounced shoulder turn takeaway which enabled an extension of both arms going back. A disruption of the clubhead orbit resulting.
-with the left shoulder held still as a drill only, the right side must shorten as the power package moves away from the ball.
- you dont want to freeze up your shoulder turn but you must fight the tendency to over turn the left shoulder actively.
-The right shoulder governs the left shoulders motion.
-My feel is a turn of the right shoulder away that allows it and right arm bending to pull the left arm which pulls the left shoulder around. Weird but thats the notion.
-The right arm will then shorten immediately in startup.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-25-2009, 05:50 PM
dkerby dkerby is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 244
Bobby Locke book
Okie, what is the name of the book by Mr. Locke?
Do you know if it is on the market now?

Thanks, Donn
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-27-2009, 02:28 PM
okie's Avatar
okie okie is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 858
Hotter than a well digger's .....!
Bobby Locke on Golf

There is a signed copy for sale on Amazon for $400 plus!

Thanks for the tip OB. I recently found that if i have insufficient waist bend at start up I tend to fight a shoulder turn takeaway. Standing too straight to the ball promotes a very flat arm swing i.e. no hint of RFA pick-up as they follow the shoulders in and around. My frustration with this is compounded by the current heat wave!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-27-2009, 05:13 PM
Yoda's Avatar
Yoda Yoda is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 10,681
Bargain Book Shop
Originally Posted by okie View Post

Bobby Locke on Golf

There is a signed copy for sale on Amazon for $400 plus!
Or . . . you can buy an unsigned copy for as low as $12.00 here: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Sear...n+golf&x=0&y=0

But watch those shipping costs. Many copies of these books will come from the U.K. or South Africa, and for U.S. buyers, the shipping costs could double your price.

__________________
Yoda
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-27-2009, 09:31 PM
dkerby dkerby is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 244
Bobby Locke's book
Lynn, Thank you very much for the information. You sure
have a lot of knowledge about a lot of things.
Donn
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:58 AM.


Design by Vjacheslav Trushkin, color scheme by ColorizeIt!.