Hey, it was I who said that a horse is pulling the cart even though he is pushing on the harness; this I get. But my issue is not so much whether one is pushing or pulling, but rather whether one is accelerating the club longitudinaly (like an arrow drawn from a quiver) or pushing (or even pulling) radially across the shaft. It seems to that with less than full shots, it is more like the latter and that centrifugal force, which is central to swinging, plays no role.
In a short shot, gravity is a key part of the equation. Short shots can absolutly be 'swung', with the #4PP and the CF created by the 'falling' club. This requires greater clubhead travel than a hitter might use for the same shot, but has the big advantage of a more consistent force (gravity).
See Ken Venturi chipping for just how much the pivot does on short shots
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I was swinging short chip shots, about 3-5 feet ball travel with a little Hip Action the other day. I needed #1 Pressure for rigidity but there's no doubt that the Primary Lever was Pulled. Any shorter of a stoke and I'd be putting.
Hey, it was I who said that a horse is pulling the cart even though he is pushing on the harness; this I get. But my issue is not so much whether one is pushing or pulling, but rather whether one is accelerating the club longitudinaly (like an arrow drawn from a quiver) or pushing (or even pulling) radially across the shaft. It seems to that with less than full shots, it is more like the latter and that centrifugal force, which is central to swinging, plays no role.
Im thinking that for Basic Motion, common Putting say, it is, of course, pure radial force. (Although the straight back, straight through putters could be said to be employing linear force).
The pp#3 in its strong, aft, first joint on the index finger throughout. As opposed to the knuckle, the Drag Loading "arrow from quiver" position. That said, I suppose you could be on huge double green somewhere and need some float loading say but............that is not Basic Motion anymore either.
The difference between Hitting and Swinging putts, chips to my mind lies in whether or not you are "actively" extending your right arm.
Swinging putting uses the right shoulder (for TGM practitioners anyways) the shoulders for other, to power the putt. Zone 1.
Hitting putting typically, ideally, zeros out the Zone 1, shoulder participation and relies instead on Zone 2, active right arm extension. Arnie and the golfers of yesteryear employed Zone 3 putting. A pure hands only stroke.
So one source of power for such short shots and no need to accelerate longitudinally as the club doesnt get that far back. Its a pure Hinge Action stroke, no cocking , no swivel. Basic as opposed to Total Motion or Acquired even.
The difference between Hitting and Swinging putts, chips to my mind lies in whether or not you are "actively" extending your right arm.
Swinging putting uses the right shoulder (for TGM practitioners anyways) the shoulders for other, to power the putt. Zone 1.
Hitting putting typically, ideally, zeros out the Zone 1, shoulder participation and relies instead on Zone 2, active right arm extension. Arnie and the golfers of yesteryear employed Zone 3 putting. A pure hands only stroke.
So one source of power for such short shots and no need to accelerate longitudinally as the club doesnt get that far back. Its a pure Hinge Action stroke, no cocking , no swivel. Basic as opposed to Total Motion or Acquired even.
Hmm? not bad. Great approach to the question. That's the answer. Why couldn't we all see it that way?
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