Edz,
So how does this help someone create grounds forces?.
If someone tried to feel if they are hitting the back of the ball with their left shoulder.
Wouldn't this promote an over the top move?
Aren't you teaching them to fire their upper body first? Instead of engaging the lower body first.
Would this also cause a lateral slide as well?
Trying to put weight on your left foot doesn't creating ground forces.
Get some pressure plates or forces plates try it and see for yourself.
No, not at all. It triggers the lower body to brace, much the same way Hogan moved. Easy to show in person.
Somewhat similar if you were to imagine throwing a sack of feed into the back of a pickup. Force moves through the body, with the legs being very involved.
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No, not at all. It triggers the lower body to brace, much the same way Hogan moved. Easy to show in person.
Somewhat similar if you were to imagine throwing a sack of feed into the back of a pickup. Force moves through the body, with the legs being very involved.
Edz,
I would like to put your theory to the test and measure to see if this would occur.
Would be very interesting to see the outcome.
Has anyone measured your theory to verify this works?
Ground reaction forces create hip rotational torque. Normal forces alone won't create hip rotational torque which your speaking about.
Is this your theory Edz and belief or has it been measured and proven it works?
I will never understand the ability of one person to say something to a computer screen they would not say to the person's face. Unreal.
Anyway. The definitions of lateral force, linear force into the ground, and sheer forces come from a mathematics and from what I know of bio-mechanics. Mr. Hogan moved his center of gravity to his left leg axis prior to the change of direction. He also used his athleticism to create forces from the ground.
My research:
Film
Angles drawn in 2 dimensional space (video)
Measurements with a micrometer
Discussions with Bio-guys at TPI seminars
People gifted in mathematics
Physics Professors at MS State
Just look at what Hogan did and explain it. It changed after the wreck and I would like anyone to explain all the complexities it involved. The pivot won the MS State Am, 4 high school state championships, and it had 3 players in USGA National championships. If all the geniuses on this page can get together and figure it ALL out we might get a USGA Champion.
So give a this redneck a break!
It is really pretty simple and John Schlee said it in "Maximum Golf." Let's get to a place we can turn from.
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Bio-mechanics are awesome. The guys that know the body that well are a real benefit to the game of golf. The stuff TPI, CHEK, and others are doing for the golfing body is super stuff!
AMM and K-Vest are giving us as instructors a completely different way to measure mechanics and I think that is awesome. We can now look at Zone #1 in a way that Mr. Kelley could never look at it and that is a real benefit.
I have measured the center of gravity (in video) for years. In fact the first time I started thinking about it is when Rob Noel gave me a lesson on hip slide/axis tilt 13 years ago. That was the first time I noticed that shifting the weight effected where I hit the ball on the face of the club.
Center of gravity is below the belly button from face on and as Don Donatucci (forgive me if I spelled it wrong) from rear view it is the booty crack. I know that center of mass is statically and dynamically are different. I also know that center of pressure (in the feet) is different as well. That being said, if one is measuring these three different aspects of weight shift they will all come to different conclusions.
Again I really like Hogan as a model for two reasons: One he was hit by a bus and then went on to play some of his best golf. Second because he got better and better and better over the years. That meant he was building better mechanics.
Really pretty neat stuff! Everyone really needs to just sit back, listen to Bob Marley and The Whailers (or something) and enjoy everything that can be learned and put into action for our golf swings.
Daryl- Thank you for the accolades but I really am just red neck......
Bio-mechanics are awesome. The guys that know the body that well are a real benefit to the game of golf. The stuff TPI, CHEK, and others are doing for the golfing body is super stuff!
AMM and K-Vest are giving us as instructors a completely different way to measure mechanics and I think that is awesome. We can now look at Zone #1 in a way that Mr. Kelley could never look at it and that is a real benefit.
I have measured the center of gravity (in video) for years. In fact the first time I started thinking about it is when Rob Noel gave me a lesson on hip slide/axis tilt 13 years ago. That was the first time I noticed that shifting the weight effected where I hit the ball on the face of the club.
Center of gravity is below the belly button from face on and as Don Donatucci (forgive me if I spelled it wrong) from rear view it is the booty crack. I know that center of mass is statically and dynamically are different. I also know that center of pressure (in the feet) is different as well. That being said, if one is measuring these three different aspects of weight shift they will all come to different conclusions.
Again I really like Hogan as a model for two reasons: One he was hit by a bus and then went on to play some of his best golf. Second because he got better and better and better over the years. That meant he was building better mechanics.
Really pretty neat stuff! Everyone really needs to just sit back, listen to Bob Marley and The Whailers (or something) and enjoy everything that can be learned and put into action for our golf swings.
Daryl- Thank you for the accolades but I really am just red neck......
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