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Old 10-19-2009, 12:57 AM
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I don't get it; "Kudos ?". For what?

I give OB : For Originality


For Answering the Question


And, for Memorization



Where the heck is Kanye? Only one Yoda for answering the question? This is a sham. All I was doing was answering the question! Im out of order? This whole system is out of order!

What would you have said? And try to keep it to things actually found in the book this time. Or is that what you term "memorization". We talk'n about Practice.

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Old 10-19-2009, 01:10 AM
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OK maybe Daryls right maybe I didnt answer the question directly. If I understand it correctly, Id say:

No, an Active Uncocking of the Left Wrist for the Swinger will not disrupt the Club Path. In fact it will make your clubhead go DOWN and given the Inclined Plane OUT. If you are doing that Actively you will not be going UP or IN, with a bent left wrist most likely. This is the opposite of Steering. So hammer down hard.
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Old 10-19-2009, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post

No, an Active Uncocking of the Left Wrist for the Swinger will not disrupt the Club Path. In fact it will make your clubhead go DOWN and given the Inclined Plane OUT. If you are doing that Actively you will not be going UP or IN, with a bent left wrist most likely. This is the opposite of Steering. So hammer down hard.
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:27 AM
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Precisely, it is the uncocking of the left wrist that puts the pressure in #2. Hammer into the ground with the left wrist and tell me that your last three fingers in the left hand don't have pressure on them.
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Old 10-19-2009, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
OK maybe Daryls right maybe I didnt answer the question directly. If I understand it correctly, Id say:

No, an Active Uncocking of the Left Wrist for the Swinger will not disrupt the Club Path. In fact it will make your clubhead go DOWN and given the Inclined Plane OUT. If you are doing that Actively you will not be going UP or IN, with a bent left wrist most likely. This is the opposite of Steering. So hammer down hard.
O.B.,

When you say "Active" Uncocking for a Swinger are you refering to Centrifugal Force alone doing the Uncocking or and active use of the muscles in the Left Wrist?
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Old 10-19-2009, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by drewitgolf View Post
O.B.,

When you say "Active" Uncocking for a Swinger are you refering to Centrifugal Force alone doing the Uncocking or and active use of the muscles in the Left Wrist?

The latter, an active uncocking of the Left Wrist when its turned to the Plane in Downstroke. This is not to say that CF isnt employed it is, this is additive. I got this from this video right here on the world wide web.



I hit a lot of balls with just my right arm on the club. My left couldnt do anything on its own until the day I employed Lynns hammering with a left arm only swing. And blammo. I used to pull the left arm and it didnt work worth a hill of beans one armed. But actively uncocking #2 puts some sting on the thing one armed or two.

I had thought it to be a 10-20-E Wrist Throw. Release Trigger. But Homer doesnt mention the active uncocking that Lynn demonstrates in my 6th anyways. Otherwise it sure sounds like it.

For me this versus the Right Arm Throw is the difference between Swinging and Hitting. Mind you I go back and forth a fair bit. My last game I was Hitting my drives, swinging my irons and Hitting my putts. I need an intervention of some kind maybe.

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Old 10-21-2009, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post

The latter, an active uncocking of the Left Wrist when its turned to the Plane in Downstroke. This is not to say that CF isnt employed it is, this is additive. I got this from this video right here on the world wide web.



I hit a lot of balls with just my right arm on the club. My left couldnt do anything on its own until the day I employed Lynns hammering with a left arm only swing. And blammo. I used to pull the left arm and it didnt work worth a hill of beans one armed. But actively uncocking #2 puts some sting on the thing one armed or two.

I had thought it to be a 10-20-E Wrist Throw. Release Trigger. But Homer doesnt mention the active uncocking that Lynn demonstrates in my 6th anyways. Otherwise it sure sounds like it.
The Left Wrist Throw Trigger (10-20-E) can be either Automatic or Non-Automatic ("active" in your terminology). This is true for both Sweep Releases (10-24-B/C) and Snap Releases (10-24-D/E). Study 7-24.

Non-Automatic Releases are triggered by deliberate mechanical manipulation. In other words, the player consciously ("actively") initiates the action. In contrast, the Automatic Releases are triggered by driving the Hands through the selected Release Point (10-24-0) -- normally via the Aiming Point procedure (6-E-2) -- as if there was to be no Release at all (10-24-E).

So, the difference between the two is that there is no "starting to hit" (6-H-0/B) when using an Automatic Release (Sweep or Snap).

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Old 10-21-2009, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Yoda View Post

So, the difference between the two is that there is no "starting to hit" (6-H-0/B) when using an Automatic Release (Sweep or Snap).



My 6th reads;

6-H-O IMPARATIVES

B. Avoid "Starting to Hit" when using a Snap Release (6-N-0).

Although there is a note in the margin from a luncheon session with Lynn where he advised me to add "Automatic" in front of the Snap Release.
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Old 10-21-2009, 11:40 AM
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Along the lines of where things are found in the book, I am curious as to why the grip is placed in the arms lane rather than hands lane? I'm sure there is a logical explanation, hearing it may help me remember where to look in the future.

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Old 10-21-2009, 11:41 AM
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My 6th reads;

6-H-O IMPARATIVES
This printer's typograhpical error (Imparatives versus Imperativies) occurred in the first printing of the 6th edition. It did not exist in its five predecessors and was corrected in subsequent printings of the 6th.

All this was rendered moot with the publication of the 7th edition and the new title for 6-H-0; namely, Curriculum. Indeed, this title is more fitting, as the journey from the 1st edition to the 6th took its toll on the original presentation.

In the first three editions, the 6-H-0 Imperatives were simply "the three most troublesome features to master." However, in the 3rd edition, these three Imperatives were further described as "Hand Imperatives". No doubt, this was to differentiate them (as a group) from the five "Basic Imperatives" introduced in 2-0 of the 2nd edition (and later expanded into the Three Basic Essentials and Three Basic Imperatives of the 4th and subsequent editions).

Then, beginning with the 4th edition, things took a real turn: Homer Kelley began to use 6-H-0 as a "curriculum" for learning Educated Hands, and he deemed that curriculum "imperative". He maintained the original three Hand Imperatives, but stated them in different words and in a different order. Plus, he added two more items to the list.

The most dramatic change, however, was his use of 6-H-0 to differentiate Hitting and Swinging. Here, he began with six points in the 4th and 5th editions and expanded it to ten in the 6th. The posthumous 7th edition retains those ten items, but now characterizes the curriculum as "indispensable".

Thus, the final references to "imperatives" and "imperative" have been removed from 6-H-0, and the Three Basic Imperatives of 2-0 stand alone.

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