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Old 10-19-2009, 01:10 AM
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OK maybe Daryls right maybe I didnt answer the question directly. If I understand it correctly, Id say:

No, an Active Uncocking of the Left Wrist for the Swinger will not disrupt the Club Path. In fact it will make your clubhead go DOWN and given the Inclined Plane OUT. If you are doing that Actively you will not be going UP or IN, with a bent left wrist most likely. This is the opposite of Steering. So hammer down hard.
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Old 10-19-2009, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post

No, an Active Uncocking of the Left Wrist for the Swinger will not disrupt the Club Path. In fact it will make your clubhead go DOWN and given the Inclined Plane OUT. If you are doing that Actively you will not be going UP or IN, with a bent left wrist most likely. This is the opposite of Steering. So hammer down hard.
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:27 AM
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Precisely, it is the uncocking of the left wrist that puts the pressure in #2. Hammer into the ground with the left wrist and tell me that your last three fingers in the left hand don't have pressure on them.
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Old 10-19-2009, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
OK maybe Daryls right maybe I didnt answer the question directly. If I understand it correctly, Id say:

No, an Active Uncocking of the Left Wrist for the Swinger will not disrupt the Club Path. In fact it will make your clubhead go DOWN and given the Inclined Plane OUT. If you are doing that Actively you will not be going UP or IN, with a bent left wrist most likely. This is the opposite of Steering. So hammer down hard.
O.B.,

When you say "Active" Uncocking for a Swinger are you refering to Centrifugal Force alone doing the Uncocking or and active use of the muscles in the Left Wrist?
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Old 10-19-2009, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by drewitgolf View Post
O.B.,

When you say "Active" Uncocking for a Swinger are you refering to Centrifugal Force alone doing the Uncocking or and active use of the muscles in the Left Wrist?

The latter, an active uncocking of the Left Wrist when its turned to the Plane in Downstroke. This is not to say that CF isnt employed it is, this is additive. I got this from this video right here on the world wide web.



I hit a lot of balls with just my right arm on the club. My left couldnt do anything on its own until the day I employed Lynns hammering with a left arm only swing. And blammo. I used to pull the left arm and it didnt work worth a hill of beans one armed. But actively uncocking #2 puts some sting on the thing one armed or two.

I had thought it to be a 10-20-E Wrist Throw. Release Trigger. But Homer doesnt mention the active uncocking that Lynn demonstrates in my 6th anyways. Otherwise it sure sounds like it.

For me this versus the Right Arm Throw is the difference between Swinging and Hitting. Mind you I go back and forth a fair bit. My last game I was Hitting my drives, swinging my irons and Hitting my putts. I need an intervention of some kind maybe.

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Old 10-19-2009, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by drewitgolf View Post
O.B.,

When you say "Active" Uncocking for a Swinger are you refering to Centrifugal Force alone doing the Uncocking or and active use of the muscles in the Left Wrist?
He cannot earn a Fifth Yoda because he refuses to separate Zone 1 and 2 from Zone 3.
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
He cannot earn a Fifth Yoda because he refuses to separate Zone 1 and 2 from Zone 3.
Dude its implied.

For the Swinger or Hitter, CF via the Pivot, Zone 1. For the Swinger the Left Wrist Throw, Zone 3, Hands. For the Hitter, the Right Arm Throw, Zone 2, Arms. Both Swinger and Hitter employing a Hinge Action, Zone 3, Hands, specifically the left hand for Club Face Control.

Wait a minute given the Hinge of Hinge Action is mounted in the Left Arm where it meets the Shoulder........does that make Hinge Action a Zone 2 deal actually? .................never thought about it. Its Zone 2 controlled in that while the Left Wrist maintains a relationship to one of the three Basic Planes it is really the mounting of the Hinge Pin at the top of the left arm that dictates the appropriate movement of the entire left arm. Hinge Action being an entire left arm deal as opposed to forearm turn , swivel deal. Nah the Arms are power the hands are direction. Forget it.

I must be going insane. I can actually picture Homers geometry. What next, I start understanding Daryls posts? Somebody help me, please.

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Old 10-20-2009, 11:41 AM
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It's not you Ob.

But concerning Hinge Action, for simplicity;

For a Swinger, Hinge Action should be viewed as Zone 3.

For Hitting, Hinge Action should be viewed as Zone 2.

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Old 10-20-2009, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
It's not you Ob.

But concerning Hinge Action, for simplicity;

For a Swinger, Hinge Action should be viewed as Zone 3.

For Hitting, Hinge Action should be viewed as Zone 2.

Can you point me to the section in the book where this is discussed?

There is no doubt that the Hinge Action is a product of the physics associated with the stroke being used, the elbow position, the Throw etc but Clubface Control is ideally left to the Pressure Points in the Hands, no?
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Old 10-20-2009, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by drewitgolf View Post
O.B.,

When you say "Active" Uncocking for a Swinger are you refering to Centrifugal Force alone doing the Uncocking or and active use of the muscles in the Left Wrist?

Let me try this a different way. The Left Wrist Throw 10-20-E must be Active, it being named a "Throw". It feels like a whole left arm Throw to me but from the wrist.

An Active uncocking of the left Wrist and therefor an Active Lever Extension as well as an On Plane (assuming the left hand is turned to plane) swing Force.

Does this sound right to you Drew? Whatever it is it works for a Swinger.
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