i am doing basic motion 10days now.i hit an average 500balls over the day into a net and i must admit the motion becomes second nature once you understand and familiarise yourself with the movement.my background comes from track and field and i spent years in UH texas under the guidace of tom tellez.he had us doing specific movements and i think this is why i'm grasping these movements of TGM so easily but with aot of hard work.
from my short time of practice using TGM personally i find hitting during the basic motion far superior. WHY? because i know and most importantly feel the positions while hitting.i can feel and hear the compression and crispness of the stike and also i can feel the FLW.the hitting motion is very very similiar to a karate move which i have firmly place in my subconsious mind.
last but not least on the AL dvd lynn demonstrated a drill by simply using your right arm to move your left.i think its called "the magic right forearm" and he also showed a fuller version on VJ which both are superb.
for me i'm definitley pointing to hitting because of the feel aspect of the movement
i can feel the FLW.the hitting motion is very very similiar to a karate move which i have firmly place in my subconsious mind.
Is this a right armed thrust as if at a guys nose with the right hand bent back? That is something I think about in regard to Push Basic.
This holding of the right wist in its impact fix degree of bend while straightening the right arm (in one manner or another) is "golfs unique move" according to Homer. A movement not commonly found in other sports and of critical importance to a swinger or hitter, something that needs to be trained and ingrained.
I too think that in Basic Motion getting to both arms straight, Follow Through, with the Right Hand still bent in its prescribed Fix degree of bend (which depends on ball placement and shot at hand) leads to fantastic compression. I found it easier to do while Hitting as well but everyone is different.
Is this a right armed thrust as if at a guys nose with the right hand bent back? That is something I think about in regard to Push Basic.
This holding of the right wist in its impact fix degree of bend while straightening the right arm (in one manner or another) is "golfs unique move" according to Homer. A movement not commonly found in other sports and of critical importance to a swinger or hitter, something that needs to be trained and ingrained.
I too think that in Basic Motion getting to both arms straight, Follow Through, with the Right Hand still bent in its prescribed Fix degree of bend (which depends on ball placement and shot at hand) leads to fantastic compression. I found it easier to do while Hitting as well but everyone is different.
OB correct.....we are on the same wavelenght here.
i am getting great answers here and alot of help but i have one more question which i feel is also very important
Q-as i am still in basic motion its a short movement but my query is in regards to taking the club to top with the right forearm.......do all TGM students take or are thought to take it back the same way whether you are hitting or swinging during total motion??
the reason i am asking this is because very shortly i think ill be doing acquired motion(maybe after the new year) and its something i want to understand
OB correct.....we are on the same wavelenght here.
i am getting great answers here and alot of help but i have one more question which i feel is also very important
Q-as i am still in basic motion its a short movement but my query is in regards to taking the club to top with the right forearm.......do all TGM students take or are thought to take it back the same way whether you are hitting or swinging during total motion??
the reason i am asking this is because very shortly i think ill be doing acquired motion(maybe after the new year) and its something i want to understand
I'm not sure about all TGM students, but I think they should. I KNOW all Lynn Blake students do!
Kevin
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I could be wrong. I have been before, and will be again.
I don't think there are any real pros and cons across the board.
I can do everything with the ball swinging that I can do with hitting and vice versa.
I choose hitting because it's something I can do the most consistently and I control the clubface the best using a hitting procedure.
However, for others it's quite the opposite.
Some will say that swinging can hit the ball further, I completely disagree with that. Kenny Perry is a hitter. And from looking at Alvaro Quiros' swing sequence, I think he's a hitter as well.
Some say hitting is more accurate. Moe Norman was the most accurate golfer of all time and was clearly a swinger in my book.
I think whether you hit or swing the best is just something that probably has to do with your brain and how you were brought into learning the game.
In other words, just focus on what works best for you instead of compiling a list of perceived pros and cons and choosing what procedure to use from that. I think Homer would've wanted it that way.
I plateaued this year because I was listening to too many different people and fell in love with the idea that hitting would make me more accurate.
a s anatural swinger, once I went back to a pure pivot driven swing my golf has improved immensely.
Certain people will say that a hitter is more consistent because a swinger requires an oiliness gained from spending all day every day at the range whereas a hitter is lower maintenance. My own experience suggests otherwise and anyway, to me, heaven ai all day veryday at the range, its definitely no chore!
X-man, trust in what Tom tells you, walk before you begin running and stick to one guy only until you reach a level beyond his ability or until you have sufficient knlwledge to determine that he doesn't know what he is talking about.
The absolute worst thing you can do in these early days is listen to too many people telling you too many different things.
YKB*
*Yoda knows best
__________________ The student senses his teacher’s steadfast belief and quiet resolve: “This is doable. It is doable by you. The pathway is there. All you need is determination and time.” And together, they make it happen.
I plateaued this year because I was listening to too many different people and fell in love with the idea that hitting would make me more accurate.
a s anatural swinger, once I went back to a pure pivot driven swing my golf has improved immensely.
Certain people will say that a hitter is more consistent because a swinger requires an oiliness gained from spending all day every day at the range whereas a hitter is lower maintenance. My own experience suggests otherwise and anyway, to me, heaven ai all day veryday at the range, its definitely no chore!
X-man, trust in what Tom tells you, walk before you begin running and stick to one guy only until you reach a level beyond his ability or until you have sufficient knlwledge to determine that he doesn't know what he is talking about.
The absolute worst thing you can do in these early days is listen to too many people telling you too many different things.
YKB*
*Yoda knows best
A lot of great advise in that post Mr. GPStyles!
I long for the days when I could trust CF to rifle that little sucker down the middle!
Kevin
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I could be wrong. I have been before, and will be again.
I must apologise for my post above. Tesco's (big grocery store in UK) is doing a deal on a very nice red that normally sells at £8 a bottle. Now it is 3 for £10. I have decided this will be my christmas wine and with my dad have been doing quality control tonight. The first two have been fine, we might open one more to be sure (to be sure, to be sure).
Yes, I had to go through this post several times before submitting it!
__________________ The student senses his teacher’s steadfast belief and quiet resolve: “This is doable. It is doable by you. The pathway is there. All you need is determination and time.” And together, they make it happen.
I plateaued this year because I was listening to too many different people and fell in love with the idea that hitting would make me more accurate.
a s anatural swinger, once I went back to a pure pivot driven swing my golf has improved immensely.
I have met a quite a few TGM'ers that fall into this category as well. That's what really appealed to me about Lynn and Ted. I had a GSED as my instructor in college and he pretty much taught everybody to swing. I really didn't know what exactly hitting was at the time, but the idea of using your right arm and right side made sense to me. And having a choice between the right and the left made even more sense to me.
Now having instructors that were more than willing to teach both and go with what worked best for you is what I was looking for.
I soon realized I could hit the ball further with hitting on a consistent basis than I could swinging, despite being told that wasn't the case. I think the big thing that got me was a couple of months ago when I looked at Quiros' swing, a guy that generates about 125-130 mph of driver clubhead speed, saw a shorter backswing, a right forearm on plane at impact, an an angled hinge and that screamed to me that he was a hitter. The longest guy on Tour is a hitter, something I was told couldn't happen by most people not named Yoda or Ted.
OB correct.....we are on the same wavelenght here.
i am getting great answers here and alot of help but i have one more question which i feel is also very important
Q-as i am still in basic motion its a short movement but my query is in regards to taking the club to top with the right forearm.......do all TGM students take or are thought to take it back the same way whether you are hitting or swinging during total motion??
the reason i am asking this is because very shortly i think ill be doing acquired motion(maybe after the new year) and its something i want to understand
Yes Id agree with Kev. Swinging or Hitting we take it back with the same RFT, fanning and bending. The left wrist action will be different for some.
But the important thing is that if you are doing Push Basic Hitting as you move to fuller shots you cant use that sort of push basic type takeaway, linear, elbow sawing or whatever. Its ok for short shots if that is what you are doing but not for longer shots. That was news to me a little while back.
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