Does CF left unbridled naturally produce an Over Roll?

[Burner]

Did Homer Kelley use that Term? Actually, no, I didn't know that Ben Doyle said that. I have his tapes, DVD's, I've had 2 lessons with Ben Doyle and I've talked to him on the Phone many times and he has never said to me that Release is "Dumping" and I wouldn't describe my Release as "Dumping". But I haven't a clue what that means even if Ben Doyle coined the term unless I asked him to explain it.

I don't believe that Mr Kelley used the term either. He was very precise with his written and spoken word according to legend. However, I am not aware that he forbade his students from adopting ways of expressing themselves to their students in a manner they considered the most expedient to get the message across. The message rather than the messenger being the important item.

What do you mean "Feast at your Table"? Are you saying that in addition to thousands of available stroke patterns, that TGM concepts themselves are open for a variety of equally valid interpretations?

"Feast at your table" is an analogy. I used it in relation to those who wholly subscribe your view: as opposed to those who do not and, dare I add, sometimes are made to suffer for it.

Burner, it's odd that Ben Doyle said that.

On an occasion, perhaps, when Mr Kelley's terminology was proving difficult to grasp. On the other hand, Mr Doyle's expression may have been, at that time, a little more succinct.

During my first lesson, Ben broke a tee in half and pushed it into the ground on a rearward leaning angle so that only a very tiny tip of the tee remained above ground. He told me to to use a chipping stroke and drive the tee into the ground without touching a single blade of grass. I said: "impossible". He took the club out of my hand, then, using a Pitching length Swing he not only drove the tee underground but did so without touching a single blade of grass as he continued with an almost full finish. Whoa. He gave the club back to me, and with a chipping stroke I hit every blade of grass around the tee without ever touching the tee. He told me I should learn to do that with a full swing.

Is the skill level and precision Impact needed for that test, best described by "Dumping"?

The methods of expression used should depend more on the person receiving the information, I think, than the person giving it. But, I don't think "dumping" would have been a term of any relevance to that excercise anyhow.