Did you read the entire thread to get the context of what I said?
While there is no dictionary of common golf speak, if there was I doubt "lag" would be anything like the tgm version you shared.
Your thing about left hand wrist cock is interesting. I know what you mean I think but how do you explain the far more accute angle that we can see? Sure looks like more than twenty or thirty degrees. But I defer to you Mike. You've seen a lot of cock in your day.
Bucket's doesn't count.
No I didn't read the entire thread. (You can't become a Masta Threadjacka if you read the entire thread!!!)
The "far more acute angle " as seen from face on (when the player is at the top of the swing)is the #3 accumulator angle. It's always been there, however the player has essentially turned the #3 accumulator angle so that you see it from your face on perspective - plus any wristcock. At address, the person viewing the golfer from "face on", doesn't see any #3 accumulator (although they would if they were looking down the target line). It creates an illusion that there is more movement (wristcock) than there really is. (1-C)
Another way to think of it is from the down the target line perspective- say the player you are watching has 60 degrees of angle between the shaft and the left arm (#3 Accumulator) and then you see them "at address" just cock their wrist another 30 degrees- you would then see the "90 degrees" between the left arm and the shaft.
The illusion is also in play on the down swing from say hands hip high to impact - it appears that you "release" alot more than you really do- because your mind assumes that the loss of the visual angle from the perspective of the face on view isn't really the release of everything - it's the #3 accumulator angle "disappearing from that perspective.
So in summary - it's VERY important to understand the context of your subject and the perspective that you are viewing it from (That's for me- not reading the entire thread )
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I remain threadless - jumping in randomly - switching the patterns - otherwise Bucket hones in on my rap/ whereabouts and then trouble starts - jab and dance - jab and dance- keep moving.
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"Jumping in randomly". Dude you're jumpin around like Spider Man.
Grand Masta Jacka, and dont pretend youve already left here cause I see you, why dont you Rap Tgm very often? I'm lovin you're "Goat Buster", Who ya gonna call , threads but.............you're from Homers hood, you've been acknowledged by the Gummer (not 12P, Scott) . You got serious cred, What up?
At address, the person viewing the golfer from "face on", doesn't see any #3 accumulator (although they would if they were looking down the target line). It creates an illusion that there is more movement (wristcock) than there really is. (1-C)
Right you are, Mike O.
With the club under the heel of the left hand and the wrist held Level with the left forearm, an angle is created between the left arm and clubshaft. This is not Wristcock with its obvious out-of-line condition of left arm and clubshaft. Instead, it is merely one in-line condition (the left arm and in-line Level wrist) meeting another in-line condition (the Clubshaft).
This alignment is important because, when the Uncocking Left Wrist (Perpendicular Motion) is followed into Impact by the Swiveling Left Hand (Rotational Motion), the result is Transfer Power (from the Left Wrist to the Left Hand).
Watching a PGA TOUR player executing a short chip or pitch shot can be instructive. Is he cocking his left wrist on the Backstroke . . . or is he merely maintaining its Level address alignment? The Master can execute his Stroke with or without Wristcock. Further, he understands and can control the significant Power implications.
Here's Brian Gay at this year's PGA Championship at Hazeltine. His Level left wrist is the key to his amazing distance control.
Yoda would a Master golfer use left wrist cock and its Delayed Release to increase the Angle of Attack at times for those little shots?
Say for a little chip from longish rough for example? In an effort to get less grass between the face and ball. A slight sacrifice in Distance Control for improved Impact conditions.
No I didn't read the entire thread. (You can't become a Masta Threadjacka if you read the entire thread!!!)
The "far more acute angle " as seen from face on (when the player is at the top of the swing)is the #3 accumulator angle. It's always been there, however the player has essentially turned the #3 accumulator angle so that you see it from your face on perspective - plus any wristcock. At address, the person viewing the golfer from "face on", doesn't see any #3 accumulator (although they would if they were looking down the target line). It creates an illusion that there is more movement (wristcock) than there really is. (1-C)
Here is a pretty cool down the line video of Rory Mclroy releasing.
Here is a pretty cool down the line video of Rory Mclroy releasing.
Grand Masta Jacka's gone G. But not before he spun this thread off topic and outta control.
Who knows where he'll jump in next.
Watch out, here comes the Jacka man!
But lets try to get him back. Rory's #3 at impact is no where near Jackas (hey if i added one more "s" to that what do you got? Say it again.) 60 degree thing. Jacka made a good point , for a change, but he might have been diminishing the #2 angle's contribution to Fully Cocked for the ego/optics of his own assertion. He's kind of flamboyant with the truth sometimes. All those super hero types are when you get to know them a little.
Grand Masta Jacka's gone G. But not before he spun this thread off topic and outta control.
Who knows where he'll jump in next.
Watch out, here comes the Jacka man!
But lets try to get him back. Rory's #3 at impact is no where near Jackas (hey if i added one more "s" to that what do you got? Say it again.) 60 degree thing. Jacka made a good point , for a change, but he might have been diminishing the #2 angle's contribution to Fully Cocked for the ego/optics of his own assertion. He's kind of flamboyant with the truth sometimes. All those super hero types are when you get to know them a little.
Come back Jack, JACKA.........!
Ok - the Jackas. approach gives you street cred - aka a good chuckle - so I'm back. Original post stands, that is anatomically with the left wrist flat you max the radial deviation/ abduction/ wrist cock at 20 degrees. If you feel like that doesn't complete the forumula of A-Accumulator#3 +B)Wristcock = C) top of the swing angle between left arm and clubshaft - then you need D) left wrist extension i.e. bend, which will provide added "angle". That assumes you are moving into more of a bend than where you measured the #3 to begin with i.e. address. Lee Trevino vs John Daly Happy now Jacko!
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Ok - the Jackas. approach gives you street cred - aka a good chuckle - so I'm back. Original post stands, that is anatomically with the left wrist flat you max the radial deviation/ abduction/ wrist cock at 20 degrees. If you feel like that doesn't complete the forumula of A-Accumulator#3 +B)Wristcock = C) top of the swing angle between left arm and clubshaft - then you need D) left wrist extension i.e. bend, which will provide added "angle". That assumes you are moving into more of a bend than where you measured the #3 to begin with i.e. address. Lee Trevino vs John Daly Happy now Jacko!
I know you want to add a couple of "f's" to what you just called me but thanks for coming back, Jacka.
I hear ya, makes sense, it just seems like 60 degrees of #3 is a lot isnt it for a Level left wrist at address. Let me think on it, wheres my compass and protractor?
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