If one were to have a flat left wrist - the wrist istself wouldn't cock and uncock on plane- because as you mentioned the left arm/shoulder (normally)isn't on-plane. And your problem is?
My fog surrounds the plane of the left hand wrist cock. Left Arm or Inclined Plane? It cant be both if the left arm isnt on the inclined plane. I want it on the Inclined Plane, but then what of the LAFW?
I get that if you turn your left hand to the plane with a little bending, the cocking and uncocking is on the plane but then you've added some Horizontal Left Hand Motion havent you? I thought that was a no,no?
Are you saying its grip type dependent? Did you mean "Flat" as weak or geometrically flat?
My fog surrounds the plane of the left hand wrist cock. Left Arm or Inclined Plane? It cant be both if the left arm isnt on the inclined plane. I want it on the Inclined Plane, but then what of the LAFW?
I get that if you turn your left hand to the plane with a little bending, the cocking and uncocking is on the plane but then you've added some Horizontal Left Hand Motion havent you? I thought that was a no,no?
Are you saying its grip type dependent? Did you mean "Flat" as weak or geometrically flat?
The Plot Thickens. Cocking and Uncocking are always on the Plane of the LAFW and when the shaft is parallel to the ground it is also parallel to the baseline of the inclined plane. All performed with a Flat Left wrist. Under specific conditions all 3 of the above exist throughout the swing.
Guys, aside from putting the Inclined Plane on the Plane of the Left Arm, the so called and probably theoretical Left Shoulder Plane which requires a Zeroed #3 Angle, how do we resolve this head scratcher or mine? Bending and Arching? To a grip type dependent extent? I gotta know.
MIke when you said, "A" , was that a disgusting and totally uncalled for insult to all of Canada? Back off you Hoser.
Guys, aside from putting the Inclined Plane on the Plane of the Left Arm, the so called and probably theoretical Left Shoulder Plane which requires a Zeroed #3 Angle, how do we resolve this head scratcher or mine? Bending and Arching? To a grip type dependent extent? I gotta know.
MIke when you said, "A" , was that a disgusting and totally uncalled for insult to all of Canada?
TSP and RFT. The geometry is set at the end of the RFT (illustration on right). The shoulder turn changes the location of the Levers (Hands and club), not the Geometry.
But I dont see the Left Shoulder Plane if that what that is, out in the field too often. Sort of like a mouse with antlers, I can imagine it but I dont see it too often unless maybe Im really hittin the Molson hard, eh. Hey, there was this one time...............a crap, that Jacka did it to me again Damn.
First Burley gets me when he photoshopped his book into the Tiger crash site, then Jacka gets me "all out o wacka" on one of Slices threads, Damn. He's got us spin'n jacks off of jacka's jacks, Jack, crap.
Im thinking there is a little bend to get the plane of the left wrist cock and the left hand onto the Inclined Plane (a usable one, TSP or whatever). Perhaps this little bend is a product of a pure vertical left hand wrist cock, perhaps not. Hogan added a touch of bend didnt he?
So Daryl for the uneducated TGM student...picture left shows a shift from the elbow plane to the turned shoulder plane....picture right shows zero shift to the shoulder plane?
level left wrist and right forearm on plane? Would that change a few things?
Patrick
Originally Posted by Daryl
TSP and RFT. The geometry is set at the end of the RFT (illustration on right). The shoulder turn changes the location of the Levers (Hands and club), not the Geometry.
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level left wrist and right forearm on plane? Would that change a few things?
Patrick
Great question Patrick.
I really like that picture as it shows in the picture on the right how to use the right forearm takeaway rather than using just your pivot which gets the club underplane.
I wish I could draw...
I would envision, with the level left wrist and right forearm on plane set up the club and red arrows traveling right up the plane line...
Patrick, you have my document with some pics of YODA and a bunch of his posts about his action, along with my guesses at his components. His action in the document is a wonderful, simple model for hitters and what I really enjoy teaching and trying to emulate personally. One day you will see how effective he is using it up close...
Kevin
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