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Old 05-13-2010, 10:43 AM
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And another question..........did he arch it for iron shots only?

Its a horizontal hand motion, but the opposite to the usual one, a reverse bend to the left wrist. A little bit of "insurance" against Throwaway and a closing clubface. Given a weak left hand grip you need to arch it to get the hands ahead at impact. You dont need to "turn it down" if you have a neutral to strong left hand grip.

Is the Arch a "compensation" then? Hmmm


D, are you saying you cant roll continuously and Horizontal Hinge? You saying the arch is a little hold off move to a roll? It could be.

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And another question..........did he arch it for iron shots only?

Its a horizontal hand motion, but the opposite to the usual one, a reverse bend to the left wrist. A little bit of "insurance" against Throwaway and a closing clubface. Given a weak left hand grip you need to arch it to get the hands ahead at impact. You dont need to "turn it down" if you have a neutral to strong left hand grip.

Is the Arch a "compensation" then? Hmmm
sorta ARCHY with driver . . . .here anyway . . . .



But if he actually gripped it like this with the shaft looking pretty much vertical . . . he'd be archy if he had any shaft lean at all . . .

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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
And another question..........did he arch it for iron shots only?

Its a horizontal hand motion, but the opposite to the usual one, a reverse bend to the left wrist. A little bit of "insurance" against Throwaway and a closing clubface. Given a weak left hand grip you need to arch it to get the hands ahead at impact. You dont need to "turn it down" if you have a neutral to strong left hand grip.

Is the Arch a "compensation" then? Hmmm


D, are you saying you cant roll continuously and Horizontal Hinge? You saying the arch is a little hold off move to a roll? It could be.
Yes, the Arch is a little hold off move to a roll. It results naturally from his swivel and allows him to Horizontal Hinge.

The Left Wrist must remain Vertical to the associated Horizontal Plane through Impact to achieve a Closing Only alignment through the Impact. Rolling through Impact would Impart a Hooding motion through Impact and would work well if you set up to strike the ball at low-point because it would additionally supply the downward blow to sustain the line of compression. However, in a normal procedure, the Clubhead is moving Down and Out and is responsible for those two elements of a three dimensional Impact. Horizontal Hinging is responsible to turn the Line of Compression during the three dimensional Impact, to sustain the line of compression through the Impact until separation. The Hookface design of the Clubhead diverts the Ball from a Circular path to a Straight Path.

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Old 05-13-2010, 11:38 AM
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The Picture below (supplied from Buckets unlimited archive) shows the clubhead slightly overtaking his hands after Impact. But this I believe to be acceptable when a solid Hinge Action is used because of the speed of the clubhead. Anyone would need a continuous swivel to stay in perfect Rhythm as far as it concerns the "endless belt" Pulley. So, I would call this a perfect Horizontal Hinge.

Undoubtedly, BH was and remains the best of the best. The Heart of the Golfing Machine is to control and sustain the line of compression. It matters less how it was achieved. That it was achieved, made him into the greatest golfer who ever played.



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The Picture below (supplied from Buckets unlimited archive) shows the clubhead slightly overtaking his hands after Impact. But this I believe to be acceptable when a solid Hinge Action is used because of the speed of the clubhead. Anyone would need a continuous swivel to stay in perfect Rhythm as far as it concerns the "endless belt" Pulley. So, I would call this a perfect Horizontal Hinge.



You can call it whatever you wanna call it . . . .BUT . . . . would you say that clubface is vertical to a horizontal plane . . . . hmmmmm?????
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:46 AM
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You can call it whatever you wanna call it . . . .BUT . . . . would you say that clubface is vertical to a horizontal plane . . . . hmmmmm?????
Not after it passes Low-Point. Which is exactly what this picture illustrates. After Low-point, the Clubhead travels Up and In and the Clubface begins to face upwards.

The Picture shows the slightest amount of the clubhead moving forward independent of the hands. This is to be expected and should be recognized as not only acceptable, but as the outcome of a perfect Hinge Action. His Left Wrist is very Flat and no longer has an arch.

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Not after it passes Low-Point. Which is exactly what this picture illustrates.
Not sure I'm sniffin' it . . . . but . . .

If he made the move that you submitted in the original picture on post #1 with the old grip . . . we may see the all bouncing off that tree behind him .
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Not sure I'm sniffin' it . . . . but . . .

If he made the move that you submitted in the original picture on post #1 with the old grip . . . we may see the all bouncing off that tree behind him .
I completely agree. Hey, I think BH was the best of the best and would still be today. The reason you're not sniffin' it is because either that glass of Ben Hogan Kool-aid is under your nose, or your Goats are too close to the open window again.

I'm not pointing out his flaws, only his perfect Horizontal Hinge Action. I don't wonder how went from a caddie to become a good pro. I'm trying to discover how he went from a good pro to the best of the best.

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