Your eye's don't lie and I can't defend his motion with 1-L unless certain allowances are made. But he would tell you that the Head can be moved by the Pivot (with exceptions) but the Pivot should not be moved by the Head.
I only had a glimpse of him. But, I saw a guy with a "commanding" control of the Clubshaft, Clubhead and Clubface.
You're not going to get a Snap Release on an Elbow Plane.
I don't know mang . . . . I'll give you that he has command of the clubHEAD . . . . but not the shaft and face. I mean D . . . you can't tell me that's a Hinge Motion . . . we could debate Plane . . . but there's no debate on hinging . . . and it is a hinge motion on an inclined plane no?
If that's a snap release . . . . I don't want one . . . that dude's video is still playing havoc with my game.
Question: Why would you want to have that much #2 left when your hands are basically on your left thigh? He may be really good at that but he HAS TO tilt back and shrink his left arm to do it. Most people are going to have trouble with that much range of motion left that late. Too steep too accute too much overlap.
Clubface to the ground . . . . Clubface to the ground . . . . lookin' like fool with your clubface to the ground. Between these two ole girls . . . . I KNOW who I'm gonna ask to the dance.
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I don't know mang . . . . I'll give you that he has command of the clubHEAD . . . . but not the shaft and face. I mean D . . . you can't tell me that's a Hinge Motion . . . we could debate Plane . . . but there's no debate on hinging . . . and it is a hinge motion on an inclined plane no?
He's Right Arm Swinging. The Hinge Pin is his Right Elbow.
Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
If that's a snap release . . . . I don't want one . . . that dude's video is still playing havoc with my game.
He Cocks his Right Wrist. It looks like a Snap Release. Technically, it's not a Snap Release because his Right Wrist begins to Uncock during his Downstroke.
Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Question: Why would you want to have that much #2 left when your hands are basically on your left thigh? He may be really good at that but he HAS TO tilt back and shrink his left arm to do it. Most people are going to have trouble with that much range of motion left that late. Too steep too accute too much overlap.
He has no need for a Left Arm except to Pull his Right Elbow as far Forward as possible. His Tilt and Left arm serve to get his Right Elbow to the Ball.
Note that if he were a Left Arm Swinger, he would be playing his Ball Forward of Low Point. Do you think he needs a Shut Clubface?
He's Right Arm Swinging. The Hinge Pin is his Right Elbow.
He Cocks his Right Wrist. It looks like a Snap Release. Technically, it's not a Snap Release because his Right Wrist begins to Uncock during his Downstroke.
He has no need for a Left Arm except to Pull his Right Elbow as far Forward as possible. His Tilt and Left arm serve to get his Right Elbow to the Ball.
Note that if he were a Left Arm Swinger, he would be playing his Ball Forward of Low Point.
So Bently J. Doyle is teaching right arm swinging now??? Wow.
So Bently J. Doyle is teaching right arm swinging now??? Wow.
I said that the Swing you presented, with your Photo, is a Right Arm Swing (Procedure). I don't know if he does it all of the Time. But, in this Photo, let there be no doubt, he is Right Arm Swinging.
Let me say further, that Ben KNOWS TGM, and that he's aware of what he is doing. Nothing wrong with Right Arm Swinging.
I said that the Swing you presented, with your Photo, is a Right Arm Swing (Procedure). I don't know if he does it all of the Time. But I suspect that he uses a Right Arm Swing a Lot.
What pattern did you get at the lesson? Maximum participation swinging? Is that still the M.O.?
What pattern did you get at the lesson? Maximum participation swinging? Is that still the M.O.?
Right Arm Swinging.
Maximum #3 Pressure and get that Right Elbow as far forward as possible. After a little, he said "Fade" and I would Fade; "Draw" and I would Draw; "5 Yard Draw", and I would 5 Yard Draw.
I was getting pretty good at it until I took it to the Golf Course that afternoon. I said "5 Yard Draw" and I would hit a Tree Trunk, "5 Yard Fade" and I would hit a Tree Branch.
Maximum #3 Pressure and get that Right Elbow as far forward as possible. After a little, he said "Fade" and I would Fade; "Draw" and I would Draw; "5 Yard Draw", and I would 5 Yard Draw.
I was getting pretty good at it until I took it to the Golf Course that afternoon. I said "5 Yard Draw" and I would hit a Tree Trunk, "5 Yard Fade" and I would hit a Tree Branch.
That pattern skatters more vectors than the hair lipped "chef" skatters hashbrowns at the Waffle Casa . . .
I'll give him credit for keeping his right wrist bent . . . . and . . . not falling down. He's about 25% on 1-L 1-21.
TGM is complex and worse still obtuse. Being the first Authorized Instructor wasnt easy Id imagine. In the end lets throw him a mulligan and applaud his many many contributions. But in the mean time, this is a discussion that needs to happen. Many people new to TGM see that over roll and ask just these sorts of questions.
Ironic wasnt it that it was Mr Doyle who was standing behind Mr Blake in the smash hit Finish Swivel video? Lynn is not one to correct the errors of others......Lord knows he'd need a lot of time, specially around here with some of my doozers, but......is this an ironic bit of happen stance or a gentleman's polite submission to the contrary and for the record? We'll never know. Doesnt matter I guess.
TGM is complex and worse still obtuse. Being the first Authorized Instructor wasnt easy Id imagine. In the end lets throw him a mulligan and applaud his many many contributions. But in the mean time, this is a discussion that needs to happen. Many people new to TGM see that over roll and ask just these sorts of questions.
Ironic wasnt it that it was Mr Doyle who was standing behind Mr Blake in the smash hit Finish Swivel video? Lynn is not one to correct the errors of others......Lord knows he'd need a lot of time, specially around here with some of my doozers, but......is this an ironic bit of happen stance or a gentleman's polite submission to the contrary and for the record? We'll never know. Doesnt matter I guess.
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