Was Nicklaus off plane?

[O.B.Left]

No . . . no wipe move . . .would be if the clubhead actually got lined up out there with the hands.

Please explain this Buck. You saying that the TSP is a wipe inducer? Or are you describing an off plane move there?

You can have "inside out" impact on any of the "useful" planes cant you? The amount of "inside out" decreases as the plane angle steepens............but the Down increases......... I dunno.

[Daryl]

You can have "inside out" impact on any of the "useful" planes cant you? The amount of "inside out" decreases as the plane angle steepens............but the Down increases.

That is so true, and the down is accentuated.

[12 piece bucket]

Please explain this Buck. You saying that the TSP is a wipe inducer? Or are you describing an off plane move there?

You can have "inside out" impact on any of the "useful" planes cant you? The amount of "inside out" decreases as the plane angle steepens............but the Down increases......... I dunno.

I'm just saying you're gonna have a hard time finding many people who are any good that have their hands AND the club on the TSP . . . . the clubhead anyway wants to get on some approximation of the elbow plane . . . you'll see pros with their hands out their on the TSP but generally the club is inside the hands more towards the elbow plane.

This may be tsp all the way . . .

[O.B.Left]

I see what your talking about, I think. But, is that a brief moment of non planar motion or a brief moment where its difficult to see the plane?

I can imagine Freddy as still having his club on an Inclined Plane there. Hard to say for sure. With Cink, the plane is more evident just before or after that point in the swing. So, wouldnt it be logical for it be on plane there too? I dunno.


Maybe Daryl can test this out on his glass plane board. Is Freddy's club on plane? You'd have to figure out where his plane line is first........Does he normally set up with his feets open?




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[Daryl]

He's lined up for a Draw. 10-5-E CLOSED-CLOSED

[12 piece bucket]

He's lined up for a Draw. 10-5-E CLOSED-CLOSED

So . . . hands still on the TSP and the head is under.

[Daryl]

So . . . hands still on the TSP and the head is under.

I think that it still looks like the TSP (no head under). The set-up looks more wicked than it is. The camera is so much closer to Freddie than the Target that His Angles look very acute. However if you look at the Target and Plane Line Extension he's only about 20 yards to the right of the Target. That's about his standard draw. And if I'm not being deceived too much, his Ball appears more Forward, which is a good indication he intends to be rapidly closing the club face through Impact.