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Old 06-23-2010, 11:03 AM
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Not in the book, but I personally think that the interlock tends to move to an angled hinge, and the overlap to a horizontal hinge.

Certainly worth experimenting based on your pattern/components and desired hinge.
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Old 06-23-2010, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by EdZ View Post
Not in the book, but I personally think that the interlock tends to move to an angled hinge, and the overlap to a horizontal hinge.

Certainly worth experimenting based on your pattern/components and desired hinge.
Please explain.
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Old 06-23-2010, 01:38 PM
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I'm sure someone with more anatomy knowledge can give more detail, but when I interlock the left forearm rotation is checked, it just doesn't want to roll.

I'm guessing it is in part due to activation of the muscles supporting the thumb and forefinger of the left hand (separate your index/middle finger in a 'V' as wide as you can to feel what I'm talking about.

Sorry I can't give you more, but at least for me the difference is clear.
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Old 06-23-2010, 02:49 PM
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Just saw some video of Ryo Ishikawa's swing. He actually appears not to have the left forefinger on the grip at all. I think there is something about all five fingers on the left hand being on the club encouraging horizontal hinging.
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Old 06-23-2010, 10:35 PM
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I had that dangling finger and an interlock grip........Yoda was not for it. He likes a grip where all the fingers of the left hand are on the club. I still interlock .......too much water under the bridge. But my finger does not dangle anymore.

There are some fine players who interlocked. Not many but .........some of golfs greats.
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I had that dangling finger and an interlock grip........Yoda was not for it. He likes a grip where all the fingers of the left hand are on the club. I still interlock .......too much water under the bridge. But my finger does not dangle anymore.

There are some fine players who interlocked. Not many but .........some of golfs greats.
...including Mr. Nicklaus and Mr. Woods!
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Old 06-24-2010, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by dodger View Post
Just saw some video of Ryo Ishikawa's swing. He actually appears not to have the left forefinger on the grip at all. I think there is something about all five fingers on the left hand being on the club encouraging horizontal hinging.
Watching the US open last weekend, there was some closeup of his swing. It looks like he had interlocking grip. I have it taped and could review again. Are you implying he used a reverse overlap?

Also interesting was I was watching the 3rd round (the 4th hole at pebble?) was 280 yards and mostly everyone was taking hybrid or 3 wood to reach the hole. Michelson and Johnson hit an iron to try to reach the green. Ishikawa takes out a driver and people gasping thinking he was going over the green but he aims left and cuts it and the ball slices right into the green around 20 feet from the hole
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Old 06-24-2010, 12:49 PM
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Watching the US open last weekend, there was some closeup of his swing. It looks like he had interlocking grip. I have it taped and could review again. Are you implying he used a reverse overlap?
No, it's an interlock. It's just that his left index finger kind of hangs free, almost like he's pointing it, rather than being curled around the right pinky. I do it this way when I interlock; it seems to help keep excess tension out of the left forearm for me.
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Old 06-24-2010, 06:31 PM
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I dangled it too. Yoda advised against it, strongly.

I think the dangly fingers can often with go with tight wrists.......the exact opposite of what you want .....firm grip relaxed wrists which allow some wrist action. The Hands are clamps but the wrists are tension free as they must be.

I had a teacher along time ago who had a great test/drill for this predicament. He'd take your clubhead in his hands and move it up down, or back and forth which he could do quite freely assuming your wrists were free ........but he'd sneak in a random super hard twist to see if your grip pressure was snug. Its a great test that one. The firm wrists , loose grip guys at first resist the lazy back forth up down and then relax a bit but when he twists the handle slips in their hands. Not good. If you'd have tried this on Ben Hogan I bet it'd all be free and easy until you went to do the surprise twist at which point you'd receive some serious resistance and probably a look that could kill. "No Siree".

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Old 06-24-2010, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by EdZ View Post
I'm sure someone with more anatomy knowledge can give more detail, but when I interlock the left forearm rotation is checked, it just doesn't want to roll.

I'm guessing it is in part due to activation of the muscles supporting the thumb and forefinger of the left hand (separate your index/middle finger in a 'V' as wide as you can to feel what I'm talking about.

Sorry I can't give you more, but at least for me the difference is clear.
I see what you mean. My left FOREARM doesn't want to roll independently as easily with interlocking as opposed to the varnum grip.
This brings up the discussion of how one wants to "turn the club over" . I agree that interlocking grip seems to promote angular hinging motion.
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