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Old 07-06-2010, 03:59 PM
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This is the best example of a hip turn producing the forward bump in the turn.

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Old 07-06-2010, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bartly View Post
This is the best example of a hip turn producing the forward bump in the turn.

I cant get the link, Im on my phone, but I think I know what it is...........If im saying "Turn, Slide then Swing" this'd be "Turn and Slide", at the same time on the backswing even. Maybe even more south west than the Henny Blobmans yellow tracer from Startup.

I goof with that one, isnt that what V.J.'s book is all about? I like that one too.

But I still maintain there is no one best way. Homer called it "Hula Hula" not just "Hula" after all.

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Old 07-08-2010, 03:12 PM
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I think that there are variations in Hip Turn. But for everyone, the Hip Turn should be accommodated by bending Knees and not by twisting the Legs.

Some may "feel" an actual Turn but many others don't although the Hips are Turned.

The issue was Clearing the Right Hip at Section 3 and 6. These are preparations. You need to prepare to Clear the Right Hip.

I think that Section 3 #13 is the big one. The Forward press while keeping the Right Hip back, gives the golfer a great opportunity to build Hip Clearing into the swing.

Hip Clearing, at the Top, isn't a big issue for me if I cleared the Hip out of the way in Section 3. Don't get me wrong. But it's more of an issue for Elbow Plane Shifts.
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Old 07-09-2010, 10:12 AM
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From 3-F-5

The Forward Press is Fixing in mind the appearance and feel of the Zone #3 Components at Impact by shifting the entire Machine per Stroke Pattern to the Impact position
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Old 07-09-2010, 11:07 AM
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Dear Kemo Sabe,

I stand corrected and rightly so.........I won't answer any more questions without consulting the book. Every passage mentioning Forward Press concerns getting to know Impact.

So, the "Forward Press" in "Section 3" is about knowing where the Right Hip and Elbow should be for Impact.

Then, and I'm only quessing, Section 6, # 24, "Clear Right Hip" is to know that it's out of the way and the Location it's traveling to for Impact?

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Old 07-09-2010, 11:14 AM
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From 12-1-0 and 12-2-0 Component 15: Delayed
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Old 07-09-2010, 04:33 PM
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From 12-1-0 and 12-2-0 Component 15: Delayed
Delayed Hip Action. Of course. Why make it any harder than it has to be. Keep it simple. Clear the Hips.
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Old 07-14-2010, 09:34 PM
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From the Top, verify that the Right Hip is behind its start-up location. The Horizont
Daryl~Does your graphic of the hip movement agree with VJ Trolio's Final Missing Piece or what is your assessment of the difference? Thanks.

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Old 07-15-2010, 08:27 AM
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Daryl~Does your graphic of the hip movement agree with VJ Trolio's Final Missing Piece or what is your assessment of the difference? Thanks.
My Hip Turn accommodates my swing strategy which includes a Stationary Head, strong Weight Shift and keeping the Spine angle from Address to Top of Swing while allowing a very strong sense of staying "On the Ball" and keeping the Hips well inside my Stance throughout the Swing. My Hip Action is on the very strong side of Action. "The Final Missing Piece" Hip Action is a little on the weak side and basically carries the Shoulders and Power Package around to Impact.

I try to keep Zone 1 as simple as possible.

1. PURPOSE
My Hip Turn Trace promotes a straight Line Delivery Path. This is my Hip Trace. This is the Path of the Hips for almost every Pivot Stroke.
"The Final Missing Piece" Left Hip moves in front of its Address Posture and promotes a Circle Path Delivery Path.

2. Comparison
Very Different
My Hip Turn leaves the Right Leg Forward Lean at Address undisturbed until the Downstroke by only moving the Right Hip behind about 3 inches while the Left Hip move laterally only to the Right.

Weight Shift
Top Of Swing: My Trace places 90% of the Weight on the Right Foot at the Top of the Swing. VJ's puts 75% of the Weight on the Left Foot at the Top of the Swing.

I almost sit back on my Right Hip Socket at the Top. With "The Final Missing Piece", one sits back on the Left Hip at the Top of the Swing.

My Hips Turn to the Plane Line but are not physically Turned. My Hip Turn is simply the Product of Knee Bend and weight shift with no rotational effort, while "The Final Missing Piece" Hip Turn is a purposeful rotation of the Hips.


Hip Trace of "The Final Missing Piece" is below.


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My Hip Trace


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