Quite frankly, I don't care what other instructors say or think about Homer Kelley or TGM. I've been at this for two years and it works for me. Yoda's explanations and clarifications work for me. Kev's, Daryl's, OB's, Mike's, and a whole bunch of others at this site work for me.
I will read and listen to others and keep gathering information. I am a bit of a whore that way, but my grounding is here and here is where I will continue to check in on a daily basis.
I have deleted the word flipping from my question. What I meant was some teachers who used to teach the Golfing Machine are putting it down now.
They fear what they don't understand. Then condemn it to make it go away. They embrace science because they don't know what to know and they're hopeful someone will tell them how to think. It's better than living in the dark of your own misunderstanding. When all of the science is solved, they'll still need different ways to swing a club.
They fear what they don't understand. Then condemn it to make it go away. They embrace science because they don't know what to know and they're hopeful someone will tell them how to think. It's better than living in the dark of your own misunderstanding.
I don't know much about science, but isn't science a good thing? It's not always right all the time, but science corrects itself when it's wrong - that's the good thing about science - it's always seeking perfection. So there shouldn't be a controversy between TGM and science. Science is in everybody's interest - I would think.
I don't know much about science, but isn't science a good thing? It's not always right all the time, but science corrects itself when it's wrong - that's the good thing about science - it's always seeking perfection. So there shouldn't be a controversy between TGM and science. Science is in everybody's interest - I would think.
I could be wrong once again, but it is my understanding H.K. had the inner being of an engineer. To me, reading the book is all about science and engineering. His work was done over decades of observation, practice, practical application, etc. His work makes all of this discussion possible. Have it it, I say. Just don't get all hissy if I choose not to follow along. I have TGM and quite happy with it as I continue to learn each day.
I could be wrong once again, but it is my understanding H.K. had the inner being of an engineer. To me, reading the book is all about science and engineering. His work was done over decades of observation, practice, practical application, etc. His work makes all of this discussion possible. Have it it, I say. Just don't get all hissy if I choose not to follow along. I have TGM and quite happy with it as I continue to learn each day.
I wasn't making any remarks against you - only saying something about science in general.
I wasn't making any remarks against you - only saying something about science in general.
I think Homer Kelley understood the science. Some critics who can't understand Homer Kelley, need to have someone explain it to them in a way they can understand. The Laws of Physics haven't changed since Homer Kelley outlined ones that apply to the Golf Stroke.
Homer Kelley didn't invent or discover the Laws. Homer Kelley's genius didn't come from Laws he didn't discover, they came from the Alignments he did discover.
So far they "think" about-ish 1/10,000 of a millisecond between full compression and ball separation that may not significantly effect ball flight and that's questionable until it gets confirmed by other engineers. I can live with that. That's 1/10,000 of a millisecond I can live without and won't need to worry about anymore. Of course, I'm crossing my fingers that it becomes confirmed as soon as the testing equipment gets invented in my future grandsons lifetime.
I hope that doesn't throw my timing off. I'll find out tomorrow and get back to ya.
I wasn't making any remarks against you - only saying something about science in general.
Air,
I certainly didn't take any offense. I enjoy your inquisitiveness. I just don't have that much to offer other than what I get from the book and the folks here.
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I don't know much about science, but isn't science a good thing? It's not always right all the time, but science corrects itself when it's wrong - that's the good thing about science - it's always seeking perfection. So there shouldn't be a controversy between TGM and science. Science is in everybody's interest - I would think.
Hey, Air, scientists are human beings who put their pants on one leg at a time. Always seeking perfection? Yes, for their own future budgets!!!
Now Air, this rant has nothing to do with you personally, unless you are a scientist in which case I'm sure you are a decent human being that would never mistake a human being for lab animal! I'm also guessing you wouldn't invent nerve gas, mustard gas, or bio-chemical weapons of mass destruction.
Did you follow the so called "global warming" crisis? No? Yes? Scientists lying their butts off.
Do you know that so called "carbon data recorders" are usually located on flat blacktop roofs near HVAC ducts?
Some of the worst decisions in history have been implemented by scientists. IBM used their new math and computer skills to track Jews for Hitler!
Google is monitoring dissidents in China for a little gold coin!
General Electric gave Obama millions so they could get special favors for their "going green" machines to be written into the tax code. Their scientists testify to Congress about the wonders of their machines. The truth is that machines from GE are less efficient than many smaller competitors who are be driven out of the market.
And now, global warming is beieng called "climate change." Why? Well it turns out there are millenia old observations suggesting that sunspots ebb and flow first, and the earth's climate responds.
Bush might've been an idiot but chairman Obama wants people to be reported to the White house if they "distort" his "Health Plan" which is robbing senior citizens of Medicaid by $500 billion! Who's health is being promoted? The health of his party at the expense of the general population. But there are doctors and nurses , with some scientific background, cheering our messiah on!
Scientists hooked some of my Jewish ancestors up to electrodes in the death camps, Air. Scientists?!!! Perfection?!!!
If Columbus hadn't brought gold and items of wealth from the end of the "edge of the world," we'd still be living under a royal monarchy somewhere.
Most scientists work for large corporations, or some branch of government. As a group, they tend to be rather statist in their mindsets.
Have you followed the development of new crop seed which does not germinate? Super crops today and no future crops tomorrow?
What kind of moron works on crap like that?
But please, science seeking perfection? C'mon!
YBGF ranting friend!
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
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