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Old 10-29-2010, 09:30 AM
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Is it possible to 'use' the pressure points incorrectly?
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Old 10-29-2010, 09:36 AM
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Is it possible to 'use' the pressure points incorrectly?
Hmmmm, great questions John!

I will look forward to hearing the more advanced ideas from others....

My first thoughts:

1) PP #3. Used incorrectly by my students when their grip is out of alignment. PP #3 must be set behind the shaft to deliver the sweet spot on plane.

2) PP #4 can be held too long. YODA and VJ Trolio show the example of the towel under the arm drill. The towel must fall out just past low point or you are not fully taking advantage of PA #4.

Sorry if too obvious and basic (or wrong!) ...

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Old 10-29-2010, 10:03 AM
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Is it possible to 'use' the pressure points incorrectly?
The usual poor shot is created by incorrect ressure point pressure. How could it not be?

Remember that everything that moves the club is channeled through pp#1, #2 and #3. Unless you have some counter productive pressure points not listed in TGM - for instance through a very odd grip.
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:42 PM
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The usual poor shot is created by incorrect ressure point pressure. How could it not be?

Remember that everything that moves the club is channeled through pp#1, #2 and #3. Unless you have some counter productive pressure points not listed in TGM - for instance through a very odd grip.
BerntR,

Am I correct in saying that the pressure points don't exert the pressure, rather they feel the pressure?

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Old 10-30-2010, 05:28 PM
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BerntR,

Am I correct in saying that the pressure points don't exert the pressure, rather they feel the pressure?

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Accumulated power, force to be applied, is exerted against the club, directly or indirectly, via the pressure points (6-C-1 and 7-11).

PP3 is also used to monitor (the feel of) lag pressure.
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Old 10-30-2010, 06:18 PM
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How is force applied or exerted "indirectly" via the pressure points? This would seem to me to be something that cannot be felt in the real world. Something that is said to be real but not able to be felt.
Also, when swinging, how can you feel/monitor PP#3 when you are pulling (with the left hand/arm), especially when the focus is on the left side (hand,arm), not the right? To me, this is like the Emperor's New Clothes. Those that say they can see it just don't want to admit they can't see it.
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Old 10-30-2010, 06:38 PM
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pp#4 is indirectly. All power is channeled through pp#1, #2, #3.

To your second question. That you're not driving with your right hand doesn't mean that it'snt used to firm up the power package structure. PP#1 /#3 is important for swingers as well. If they use extencior action. Which they should do.
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Old 10-30-2010, 07:05 PM
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How is force applied or exerted "indirectly" via the pressure points? This would seem to me to be something that cannot be felt in the real world. Something that is said to be real but not able to be felt.
Also, when swinging, how can you feel/monitor PP#3 when you are pulling (with the left hand/arm), especially when the focus is on the left side (hand,arm), not the right? To me, this is like the Emperor's New Clothes. Those that say they can see it just don't want to admit they can't see it.
What BerntR said, plus............

the lag pressure felt on PP3 at transition (or before even) is monitored (felt) throughout the remainder of the swing - unless it is lost.

The hands work as a unit throughout the golf stroke, whether swinging or hitting. Pulling or pushing they are in it together.
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What they said but.... Get in your car and accelerate till you feel some lag pressure on your back as it get presssed into the seat. Is it direct or indirect? Is the car being thrusted forward at your back/ seat point of contact?
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Old 10-29-2010, 01:54 PM
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I have used them all incorrectly

PP4 .....I prefer to feel a tighten at the armpit with external rotation of the left humerus. If I just let it fall Im not using the pect major or the rotator cuff muscles particularly the supra and infraspinatus muscles. IMO this is what give a positive torque to the shaft and the full HH.

PP2......I have broken both my 4th and 5th metatarsal bones, so when my last three fingers hurt, I know I'm doing something wrong.
The left hand doesn't work as a whole unit like putting.
I get into trouble when my left thumb moves to the top of the grip and I zero out acc #3 and SWING. I wont be able to use PP2 to full potential and the back of my left hand hurts.
I believe in a stronger left hand grip to max PP2. Firm pressure on the last three fingers only. I found that the better utilization of PP2 cause blisters over base of the fingers.

PP3...and PP1.....well that would be another post.
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