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Old 11-03-2010, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Dawgtired View Post
I'm new to TGM so this may be a dumb question; if so, forgive me. I understand why a hitter would want an aiming point, but why would a swinger? If the whole idea is to just let the ball get in the way of swing why would you have an aiming point?
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6-E-2 THE AIMING POINT CONCEPT The Hands and the Clubhead combine as Clubhead Lag (5-0, 6-C) and can be utilized to execute “Delivery” by directing the Lag Pressure Loading (6-C-2-A) at – and through per 4-0 – an Aiming Point located on the appropriate Delivery Line per 2-J-3 and 7-23. This Aiming Point can be pin-pointed by experiment and experience only, because “normal” Handspeed differs among players. Increased Handspeed and/or Sweep Release moves it aft of its “normal” Handspeed location and decreased Handspeed and/or Trigger Delay moves it forward. 10-24 presents additional detail. The Aiming Point replaces the Ball so you no longer direct the #3 Pressure Point at the Ball but at the Aiming Point just as if it were the Ball – like an explosion shot from sand. Experiment until you grasp the effects of Ball Positioning (2-N).
Aiming Point, when not the inside aft quadrant of the ball, is located on the delivery line which visually directs the Clubhead. This is an alternate way of assuring an On-Plane Stroke by visualizing the Clubhead Orbit.

If you draw the Clubhead Arc on the Ground, it will always pass through the Inside Aft Quadrant of the Ball. The Aiming Point would be somewhere along this Arc Line.

If you, as I do, prefer to trace the Plane Line with the #3 PP, then the Aiming Point ( if you want to call it that ) will always be the inside Aft Quadrant of the Ball. I guess when I think hard about it, I'm directing Thrust along the Plane Line with the focus on intersecting the Inside Aft Quadrant of the Ball. Hmm? I guess that the Inside Quad of the ball is my Aiming Point.

( I think, I'm close, at least, to understanding the Aiming Point Concept )(I need the Posts. I heard that after 4,000 posts, ya get free lessons )
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Old 11-03-2010, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
Aiming Point, when not the inside aft quadrant of the ball, is located on the delivery line which visually directs the Clubhead. This is an alternate way of assuring an On-Plane Stroke by visualizing the Clubhead Orbit.

If you draw the Clubhead Arc on the Ground, it will always pass through the Inside Aft Quadrant of the Ball. The Aiming Point would be somewhere along this Arc Line.

If you, as I do, prefer to trace the Plane Line with the #3 PP, then the Aiming Point ( if you want to call it that ) will always be the inside Aft Quadrant of the Ball. I guess when I think hard about it, I'm directing Thrust along the Plane Line with the focus on intersecting the Inside Aft Quadrant of the Ball. Hmm? I guess that the Inside Quad of the ball is my Aiming Point.

( I think, I'm close, at least, to understanding the Aiming Point Concept )(I need the Posts. I heard that after 4,000 posts, ya get free lessons )
Wow!! This is some deep stuff. I've started tracking the plane line with the #3pp. That alone has helped a lot. Now I've got to figure out if my right arm lifts the left on the backswing. If I push my left arm with my right on the downswing or is it more a flinging of my left arm off my chest, etc., etc., and the list goes on and on.
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Old 11-03-2010, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dawgtired View Post
Wow!! This is some deep stuff. .......
uh oh, then I'm probably wrong. When it goes deep, I tend to bury myself in it.
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:32 AM
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Don't worry Daryl,

I doubt there are many who can tell whether you'r wrong or right. It looks good to me anyway. I was actually standing by here waiting for an answer from someone of your caliber.

One question though;

Do you really trace the plane line with pp#3? I don't mean geometrically, but mentally. In a monitoring sense? Do you think about it when you strike the ball?

I do a lot of tracing at address. My mindset is arch of approach. But when I've started the motion, the tracing basically happens in virtual reality.

The monitoring I do with pp#3 is basically for lag pressure and discontinuites in the hinge action.

I don't monitor where the club is going. Not conciously anyway. But I probably do it subconciously. It seems like I already know where the clubhead is and what it takes to move it through impact. So a lot of focus on the ball and the intent of the shot, but not much monitoring once I've started the motion.
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Old 11-04-2010, 07:10 AM
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Do you really trace the plane line with pp#3? I don't mean geometrically, but mentally. In a monitoring sense? Do you think about it when you strike the ball?
Yes. I try as long a trace as the length of swing permits.

Three feet aft and Three feet forward is a definite "Drawing a line with a Pencil". With a flying wedge waggle, Three feet aft of the ball, the trace feels like a right to left dragging a broom where the wall meets the floor, and Three feet forward the trace needs right arm straightening to keep the broom against the baseboard.

During the actual swing, all of that blends together and feels like a long sweep while straightening my right arm. But it's definitely drawing a line with a sweeping and straightening motion of my right forearm/hand.

It's really important to me to feel that on every shot because it helps to feel like I'm dragging the #3 PP pressure through the ball as my right arm straightens. I like the feel of dragging the club and I want to keep it dragging and not take over the shot.

I don't rotate my arms or Wrists (Swivel) which is probably why I'm able to sense the #3 PP so well. I just use a simple Horizontal Hinge. The Impact Swivel is the automatic outcome of my Hand Path moving Down-Plane. Simply Straightening the Right Arm while moving Down-Plane returns the Clubface to Vertical for Impact.

Those are my feels. They worked really well this year. I really tried to keep things simple. Fairways, Greens, Bar, Nap; in that order.
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Old 11-04-2010, 08:58 PM
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What if you thrust out to any part of the Base Line of the Plane?
Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
Aiming Point, when not the inside aft quadrant of the ball, is located on the delivery line which visually directs the Clubhead. This is an alternate way of assuring an On-Plane Stroke by visualizing the Clubhead Orbit.

If you draw the Clubhead Arc on the Ground, it will always pass through the Inside Aft Quadrant of the Ball. The Aiming Point would be somewhere along this Arc Line.

If you, as I do, prefer to trace the Plane Line with the #3 PP, then the Aiming Point ( if you want to call it that ) will always be the inside Aft Quadrant of the Ball. I guess when I think hard about it, I'm directing Thrust along the Plane Line with the focus on intersecting the Inside Aft Quadrant of the Ball. Hmm? I guess that the Inside Quad of the ball is my Aiming Point.

( I think, I'm close, at least, to understanding the Aiming Point Concept )(I need the Posts. I heard that after 4,000 posts, ya get free lessons )
I trace the BLP going back but feel like I can fire at any part of that line once my weight is forward even if I set the Hula to start. If I sweep and it's an automatic release, I want to throw out at the line after my hands drop to waist high. If a non-automatic release, I try to hold to the belt-buckle remembering that the goal is not the ball but Both Arms Straight!

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Old 11-09-2010, 01:25 AM
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Teach what happened to you? Makita and Hull? Now that was pre Flyers I know......old time hockey, original six.

They were hockey immortals for sure. I used to have a photo of Hull above my bed when I was a kid. Every night I prayed he'd get traded to the Leafs. Every night. Never happened , maybe I have a few prayers left to be answered though. Hope so. Patrick Kane in blue and white maybe? Got to do some work on that one. Let us pray.
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