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Old 12-04-2010, 03:08 PM
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Its a TSP if you shift to that plane in Follow Through or just Stay on it throughout the swing.

Zero Shift would have you TSP throughout , zero shift is very uncommon however. Singe shift would have you staying on the TSP after Startdown, double shift would have you stay on the lower plane (Elbow Plane or whaterver you choose). You could add another shift and shift from the Elbow back up to the TSP Triple Shift ..........any and all combinations are available to the golfer, but shifting can be hazardous of course.

The lower planes through the ball have a pronounced feel for going "left" or IN , which they in fact do. The steeper planes have more a feel for the UP , which is geometrically true as well.

Follow Through......Both ARms straight, Impact Hands, Flying Wedges , club still on plane would be your ideal, yes. Plane Angle dependent upon personal preference.

This assumes we are talking about the common situation where the Shaft lays flat on the Inclined Plane as opposed to the Clubhead only describing a Plane of Motion. Homer did allude to this bit of business........which would require a change to 1-L-5. Homer was that kinda guy. Single Horizontal is non (shaft) planar for instance , the shaft describes a cone, the clubhead rides a flat horizontal plane though. You can forget this caveat if you want......too much coffee today. Im sorry Bear ........where were we.

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Old 12-04-2010, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Its a TSP if you shift to that plane in Follow Through or just Stay on it throughout the swing.

Zero Shift would have you TSP throughout , zero shift is very uncommon however. Singe shift would have you staying on the TSP after Startdown, double shift would have you stay on the lower plane (Elbow Plane or whaterver you choose). You could add another shift and shift from the Elbow back up to the TSP Triple Shift ..........any and all combinations are available to the golfer, but shifting can be hazardous of course.

The lower planes through the ball have a pronounced feel for going "left" or IN , which they in fact do. The steeper planes have more a feel for the UP , which is geometrically true as well.

O.B.
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Like a few second opinions here. Both arms straight, shaft on plane. continue to trace. Looks like the options are TSP or off plane manipulation. That is significant because the Elbow plane golfer would have shifted to TSP at follow-through. The implications are enormous. Looking for sources that have addressed this issue or where HK put it as I have not found it in TGM.

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Old 12-04-2010, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by HungryBear View Post
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Like a few second opinions here. Both arms straight, shaft on plane. continue to trace. Looks like the options are TSP or off plane manipulation. That is significant because the Elbow plane golfer would have shifted to TSP at follow-through. The implications are enormous. Looking for sources that have addressed this issue or where HK put it as I have not found it in TGM.

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Maybe I didnt chose my words carefully enough........Id say any plane or off plane. With the "off plane" being intentional sometimes.

You can hit some nice little lob shots on the Hands Plane and be planar or go non planar by design .....say like a Lee Trevino hold off fade , angled hinge with no Release Swivel , club not pointing at the plane line in Finish. You got options. But for the standard Total Motion planar application........in Follow Through: Both Arms Straight, Flying Wedges, Impact Hands, shaft on "a" Plane (the ones between the TSP and Elbow are most common).

Ill shut up now.

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Old 12-04-2010, 08:45 PM
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I'm lost here. Are you referring to keeping the shaft on-plane until the finish swivel or re-planing the club after Both Arms Straight?
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Old 12-04-2010, 09:20 PM
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I'm lost here. Are you referring to keeping the shaft on-plane until the finish swivel or re-planing the club after Both Arms Straight?
The question. Straight forward without subterfuge. Total motion, at and past follow through, both arms straight. What plane are you on?

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Old 12-04-2010, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by HungryBear View Post
The question. Straight forward without subterfuge. Total motion, at and past follow through, both arms straight. What plane are you on?

The bear
According to my laser stick, I'm always on-plane from backstroke to finish. TSP.
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Old 12-04-2010, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by HungryBear View Post
The question. Straight forward without subterfuge. Total motion, at and past follow through, both arms straight. What plane are you on?

The bear
Bear,
Instead of everyone answering in separate posts, I thought I would help everyone out by condensing a few into one post.

O.B. - would be off plane - strictly by default
Bucket - switching planes at each micro second during the swing - it would change with every swing - so there is no answer for him.
Fort - On a plane that would have full a service buffet with beautifual flight attendants.
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Old 12-05-2010, 09:18 AM
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Got it. now
I got it now.

Thanks

Thie answer is:
"This stuff hurts my head" . Marshall Mcluhan

He also said- Don't know, Don't care and Don't want to know because the media is the message.

We know there are single planes, Bi-planes and the old Fokker is a tri-plane.



Need something closer to home??



The Bear roams in the woods.

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Old 12-05-2010, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by HungryBear View Post
The question. Straight forward without subterfuge. Total motion, at and past follow through, both arms straight. What plane are you on?

The bear


Single Shift so TSP. Dont try to do it , it just happens for some reason.
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Old 12-05-2010, 12:27 PM
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Was looking into my right front pocket and saw my elbow pass by, my shoulder was not even close.

Has nothing to do with this thread. It is just one of my observations, Look, Look, Look. That is the second of the three Looks.

The Bear passing by

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