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Old 12-09-2010, 09:49 AM
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That's why the pitch elbow is partnering with the swing in 12-2, Bear.

Are you trying to reinvent TGM perhaps (It may be good learning strategy though)
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Old 12-09-2010, 10:05 AM
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That's why the pitch elbow is partnering with the swing in 12-2, Bear.

Are you trying to reinvent TGM perhaps (It may be good learning strategy though)
In fact what I am doing, in a way, is reverse engineer TGM and look at optional procedure and see that choice is not always wise because choice may require compensations and i see the winter as a good time to review and get rid of compensations. By thinking out their advantages if any. I am trying to find the BEST uncompensated release in this thread. We have only toushed swinging/ sequenced/horizontal hinge so far.

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Old 12-09-2010, 11:03 AM
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I understand. That's a project that interests me.

Here's food for thought:

If you're playing with feather light sticks you will get the most action if you do put more of the work in your hands. Or just use one hand. If you have a stick without a clubhead and try to swing it as fast as you're capable of, a one handed swing will produce more speed than a two handed. And the back hand will be the winner. The pivot and the Left Hand will slow you down if you use two hands! Accumulator #3 will probably be more important for swing speed than any of the other accumulators because there's a lot of leverage in just rotating the wrist.

Do the opposite and swing a heavy stick, or a normal club with weights attached. The hands and arms will have more than enough just holding on to the club and you will have to adjust things to prevent the swing from breaking down under the weight it carries. The release holds so much moving mass that you need to brace yourself to prevent the swing from breaking down. You will be forced to use both arms and the pivot to generate some speed. And you will probably not be strong enough to snap release without getting your hands serious disconnected in the process. And you will probably be forced to apply a more sweeping motion just to keep everything together.

Replace the light and heavy sticks with a golfer that is super strong and one that is super weak and it should be clear that they shouldn't swing the club the same way for the optimum result. THe rest of us aren't either super strong or super weak, but somewhere in the middle. But we are different and we need to optimise the tradeoffs involved between speed and strength differently.
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Old 12-09-2010, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BerntR View Post
I understand. That's a project that interests me.

Here's food for thought:

If you're playing with feather light sticks you will get the most action if you do put more of the work in your hands. Or just use one hand. If you have a stick without a clubhead and try to swing it as fast as you're capable of, a one handed swing will produce more speed than a two handed. And the back hand will be the winner. The pivot and the Left Hand will slow you down if you use two hands! Accumulator #3 will probably be more important for swing speed than any of the other accumulators because there's a lot of leverage in just rotating the wrist.

Do the opposite and swing a heavy stick, or a normal club with weights attached. The hands and arms will have more than enough just holding on to the club and you will have to adjust things to prevent the swing from breaking down under the weight it carries. The release holds so much moving mass that you need to brace yourself to prevent the swing from breaking down. You will be forced to use both arms and the pivot to generate some speed. And you will probably not be strong enough to snap release without getting your hands serious disconnected in the process. And you will probably be forced to apply a more sweeping motion just to keep everything together.

Replace the light and heavy sticks with a golfer that is super strong and one that is super weak and it should be clear that they shouldn't swing the club the same way for the optimum result. THe rest of us aren't either super strong or super weak, but somewhere in the middle. But we are different and we need to optimise the tradeoffs involved between speed and strength differently.
I agree. I have experimented with a "Medicus" swing meter- (the type that is clamped to the shaft) - and have found that with a half shaft with a grip I can swing it above its limits- Greater than 150 Mph. On my driver I am about 107 Mph.
There are many things that seem to make sense but don't. The #2/ right forearm release is one of them. I looked at a lot of the pro's swings and looked at the clubface down at where "many" say the snap release starts- TGM/sequence release ( if both #2 and #3 have not been released) would have the clubface still on plane. The pro's, in general, have the face pretty well rotated to impact position. Then I remember the 5 lessons picture of the muscle man and this being the start to hit spot. And, I recall Fred Couples saying that from that position he hits hard. Another question I need to resolve is the Plane shift procedure. How does it happen? Lay the club off? Loop it under ? There are lots of winter alignment and procedures to work on. After last year I find it is a mistake to just go back to basic motion because, at least for me- and I doubt I am an exception, That can become a "catch 22".

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Old 12-09-2010, 12:53 PM
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I do the plane shift by a hip slide and sidebending the upper spine. It doesn't feel like a planeshift. It feels like a change of direction and getting connected move.
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