Thanks Kev lets see what Yoda says though.......Some times when Im talking to him in person Ill be launching into a question with a bit of a preamble and suffice to say I never get outa the preamble.
The dang book is a riddle inside of a riddle which is wrapped in a riddle, which makes it pretty hard on Joe Duffer's head. When you get it all figured out you're too old to play golf or insane or both. My last words will be something like...."ah so thats what Homer was talking abou...................." or "Either that dang yellow book goes or I do....."
Thanks Kev lets see what Yoda says though.......Some times when Im talking to him in person Ill be launching into a question with a bit of a preamble and suffice to say I never get outa the preamble.
The dang book is a riddle inside of a riddle which is wrapped in a riddle, which makes it pretty hard on Joe Duffer's head. When you get it all figured out you're too old to play golf or insane or both. My last words will be something like...."ah so thats what Homer was talking abou...................." or "Either that dang yellow book goes or I do....."
I'm already getting old and too dumm to be insane..
Thank you guys, you make the game of golf less frustrating and more inspiring.
I now realize why I my right hand was a bit "weaker" when I felt pure swinging. My right index knuckle was located quarter turn towards the top of the shaft. and I was swinging down and.a bit steeper.
My left hand and wrist also shifted a bit more to the top of the shaft in a "stronger" position. This was to facilitate the all DRAG loading/release force,the direction of my pure swinging motion was downward.
No or little lag was felt.
If I turned my right hand a bit so I feel PP#3 at the aft of the shaft I feel I have to shallow out my swing in order to use/feel LAG pressure. In other words, drive load/release tends to match with a more level hit for me than a downward blow.
Pure swinging without pp3 feels more like a downward blow.
Take a look at these hands.......just made for Drag Loading. Knuckle on top , first joint of the right index finger on the aft. Seemingly foreshadowed in the way he held a ball even. Alignments born out of hard work , trial and error but here for us to discover intellectually thanks to Homer.
Hogan probably never heard of "Drag Loading" but his hands knew it well. I dont know if he ever discussed the feeling of Drag Loading....the loading of the knuckle, the body pulling the club longitudinally by pp #2, the last three fingers of the left hand. (Startdown waggles anyone?) He danced all around it though from what I can see while discussing the mechanics of it.
In terms of Radial and the index finger he was caught on film discussing it's feel. A tape that Lynn gave to the world actually. Here's an edited version , watch where he says "its just forward". That is inertia , lag pressure at the right index finger he is discussing as opposed to direct drive thrust.
You can only feel that inertia as long as the Hands are accelerating. In fact to sustain any given amount of lag pressure you must sustain their Rate of Acceleration. A drop in the rate of acceleration, though you may still be accelerating, will see a corresponding drop in amount of lag pressure (in psi). To sustain the rate of acceleration you better start off kind of slow and give yourself a chance to keep it up. Sort of like a sprinter. Ah by the way Im thinking the Endless Belts Analogy's constant hand speed was not intended to be applied literally to your golf swing......you'd have no lag pressure in that case. Hence its label as an analogy perhaps? Not saying anything is wrong with the Endless Belt though , I love it.
This is Homer's Heavy Hit . Triple H. Golf's secret. Lag Pressure (and Rolling but thats another story) create the flat left wrist not vice versa to my mind. Swing the Hands not the Clubhead etc it all relates.
As an aside, although Mr Hogan said "butt pad" the photos seem to reveal "first joint" to my eyes. Either will work I guess but its interesting to this golfing lunatic. Hmm could one be the feel of the pressure and the other be the alignment to the aft, given some downwards direction to the thrust?
I hit some balls today and felt PP#3 as expected on the aft with the index knuckle.
Then I began swinging, removing my 1st knuckle from the aft side....concentrating on dragging(pulling toll bell) rather than driving(axe handle) to see if I can feel thàt "DRAG PRESSURE".
Did I feel it?
Yes
Was it as intense at lag pressure?
Yes and No
Where was it?
Well, it wasn't just PP#2 . It was shared between PP#4 and PP#2 The Pulling force didn't feel as intense as the driving force but maybe because it was shared between PP4 and pp2
When I tried to make either pp4 or pp2 to feel as intense as pp3 at impact by changing my swing the worse I made contact with the ball.
To add, I think a swinger's Drag pressure is not as intense and felt differently than a hitter's lag pressure The hitter's lag pressure is felt because of a straight line delivery.
The swinger's delivery to the ball is circular and the shaft rotates counterclockise to the ball.This action produce a torque type force
The "drag" pressure is therefore not behind the shaft rather on top portion of the shaft.to produce the turning motion that would be felt at PP#2 and PP#1
PP#4 is also on "top" on the shaft and directs the dragging load as an addition gear much like a gear in a tranmission driving smaller gears to torque the shaft.
This is what I believe is "Drag Pressure" and why it is different from Lag Pressure.
Kev, I heard good comments bout the pure ball striker.
But right now I want to use the 3 barrel swinging protocol and not use any hitting action for my irons....things may change later.
The lag pressure you feel is a function of acceleration. If you feel less of it while you swing you have less acceleration. That shouldn't be the case, IMO.
Swinging is good for learning golf because you are forced to use your lower body and your big muscles (Zone 1) properly to get a decent result. If your Zone 1 has issues you will probably get better results trying to hit. But you will never get great results with any pattern before you master Zone 1.
Something you said about your pressure points made me wonder whether you actually change your grip when you shift between hitting and swinging. That shouldn't be necessary nor would I recommend it. The PP#3 rotation should happen because of grip change or a steeper seing. But because of a pitch elbow in the down swing, because you turn your arms with your pivot and because you aim for a dual horizontal hinge action (which comes rather natural with swinging when it's done right).
The lag pressure you feel is a function of acceleration. If you feel less of it while you swing you have less acceleration. That shouldn't be the case, IMO.
Swinging is good for learning golf because you are forced to use your lower body and your big muscles (Zone 1) properly to get a decent result. If your Zone 1 has issues you will probably get better results trying to hit. But you will never get great results with any pattern before you master Zone 1.
Something you said about your pressure points made me wonder whether you actually change your grip when you shift between hitting and swinging. That shouldn't be necessary nor would I recommend it. The PP#3 rotation should happen because of grip change or a steeper seing. But because of a pitch elbow in the down swing, because you turn your arms with your pivot and because you aim for a dual horizontal hinge action (which comes rather natural with swinging when it's done right).
Bernt,
one of my current struggles with swinging is the proper swivel or dual horizontal hinge action.
I am trying different wrist actions to match my pivot actions.
I notice that my rhythm is bang on when I employ standard wrist action as the rate which I turn zone 1 muscles is at the same rpm as the rolling of my left wrist.
I think that is one of the difficulties with swinging is not to compensate too much and feel the pressure points just exclusively with PP#4 or PP#2 but both.