Bear, perhaps your problem relates to the definition of Elbow Plane. There is to my knowledge only one Elbow Plane which is defined as the point where the Right Elbow would touch the body. Plane and simple. However it is possible to get the Right Forearm on a Plane, a Shaft Plane, which is higher than the Elbow Plane at Address or Impact. Homer liked this bit of business as it lent itself to the possibility of zero shift. Given his strong preference for a TSP Angle in Startdown , Zero shift would ideally be started and finished on a TSP with the Right Forearm on this Plane as well at Fix and Impact.
That being said its a bit "ungolf like" if you will. And so we are left to what I believe to be the practical ideal......what I term "minimal shift". The Right Forearm lies on a Shaft Plane which is above Elbow Plane but below TSP at Address with the TSP you locate being the flattest you can comfortably locate ......which isnt all that flat really. "Flat Back" turn of the Right Shoulder. From a DTL view you are minimizing the degrees of shift necessary be it a Single or Double or Triple shift.
Bear, If you are trying to drop to a lower Elbow Plane and not getting there.......try something higher but with the Right Forearm on that Plane. Minimize your Shift in terms of degrees from DTL or take out a shift even. Go Single Shift instead of Double. The level Left Wrist at Address , the on Plane Right Forearm ....work on your Arm Set at Address. Its structure is sturdy. Hit little chips and pitches with just your RFFW attached to the club, you'll feel its structure which you can use Swinging or Hitting. The problem most people have with the Arm Set is that their Left Wrist is not Level at Address. Simply put, to raise your Right Forearm to the Shaft Plane merely Level your Left Wrist. There is often some stiffness or built in #2 Angle at the Left Wrist which is inhibiting the correct Arm Set.
Bear, perhaps your problem relates to the definition of Elbow Plane. There is to my knowledge only one Elbow Plane which is defined as the point where the Right Elbow would touch the body. Plane and simple. However it is possible to get the Right Forearm on a Plane, a Shaft Plane, which is higher than the Elbow Plane at Address or Impact. Homer liked this bit of business as it lent itself to the possibility of zero shift. Given his strong preference for a TSP Angle in Startdown , Zero shift would ideally be started and finished on a TSP with the Right Forearm on this Plane as well at Fix and Impact.
That being said its a bit "ungolf like" if you will. And so we are left to what I believe to be the practical ideal......what I term "minimal shift". The Right Forearm lies on a Shaft Plane which is above Elbow Plane but below TSP at Address with the TSP you locate being the flattest you can comfortably locate ......which isnt all that flat really. "Flat Back" turn of the Right Shoulder. From a DTL view you are minimizing the degrees of shift necessary be it a Single or Double or Triple shift.
Bear, If you are trying to drop to a lower Elbow Plane and not getting there.......try something higher but with the Right Forearm on that Plane. Minimize your Shift in terms of degrees from DTL or take out a shift even. Go Single Shift instead of Double. The level Left Wrist at Address , the on Plane Right Forearm ....work on your Arm Set at Address. Its structure is sturdy. Hit little chips and pitches with just your RFFW attached to the club, you'll feel its structure which you can use Swinging or Hitting. The problem most people have with the Arm Set is that their Left Wrist is not Level at Address. Simply put, to raise your Right Forearm to the Shaft Plane merely Level your Left Wrist. There is often some stiffness or built in #2 Angle at the Left Wrist which is inhibiting the correct Arm Set.
Thanks O.B.
The problem , as I see it, is the talk about planes is almost always relating Basic Plane's , 7-6 but we are talking about the down swing plane(s) 7-23, delivery path. As I see it, 7-23 paragraph 3 (6th edit.) must be read with care. It says, at least to me, that if you have accumulators #2 and #3 then you have elbow plane to the extent they are used.
It isn't hard for me to get there but I am sure that will stand the hair up on the back of a lot of necks. Shouldn't have said that but it is likely true.??
Thanks O.B.
The problem , as I see it, is the talk about planes is almost always relating Basic Plane's , 7-6 but we are talking about the down swing plane(s) 7-23, delivery path. As I see it, 7-23 paragraph 3 (6th edit.) must be read with care. It says, at least to me, that if you have accumulators #2 and #3 then you have elbow plane to the extent they are used.
It isn't hard for me to get there but I am sure that will stand the hair up on the back of a lot of necks. Shouldn't have said that but it is likely true.??
The Bear
Bear while we wait for clarification .....I believe you are perhaps subject to a change in thinking by Homer regarding the Elbow Plane. He had a fondness for it in the early editions that he didnt share in the latter days. So Id say the fact you cant get aligned on the Elbow Plane is no problem vis a vis Homer. No problem at all actually, especially if you listen to the audio tapes from the early 80's.
Not saying there arent plenty guys who teach it, love it , embrace everything to do with it. But there'd be no hair standing up on the back of my neck or Homers I dont think. Im talking fixed , low Elbow Plane not just any old plane you can get your Right elbow and shaft on.
I must admit that I dont follow you in regard to Accumulator #2 and 3 and the Elbow Plane. Dont be alarmed there's a lot I dont follow. But all planes could have both coudnt they? In that paragraph from 7-23 Homer isnt saying that you must zero out #3 for the "higher" Elbow Planes.
In regard to Plane Angle Variations and Power Package Delivery Paths, one of the notations Yoda made in my 6th edition was on the bottom of page 158 ,right under the pictures of Dianne demonstrating various Shifs. It reads " Relates to 10-23- B/C/D" .
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