Gregg Mchatton no up in the Backswing
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12-28-2010, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
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Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. - CF has nothing to do with EA.
- Shoulder Turn Takeaway does not mix with EA.
- EA functions to create and Maintain the Flying Wedge Alignments from Start-up to Full Extension (Including Magic of the Right Forearm).
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EAsy there Einstein, easy.......
I said I thought you could True Swing with EA. Im merely asking if Mr Doyle and Mr McHatton employ it, teach it? I dont know.
From my personal experimentation .........in the O.B. Lab and think tank center at the local golf dome ....I personally have to dial EA down when going full monty on the CF swing with Float Loading. Not off but down. Now that might just be me given my limitations and lack of training with that type of swing. I do think I could learn how to employ EA and let the Right Elbow cock the left wrist on the way down......gonna do some more work on that one........Id put your helmets on if you're within shankable reach of my experiments but I wanna learn that move. Maybe Ill get Yoda to show me that one when next we meet.
D, when you say "CF has nothing to do with EA"? Isnt EA artificial CF? Or when you say CF do you mean "clubhead force"? You know like in 2-C.
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12-28-2010, 04:29 PM
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City as an aside , and I do recognize how averse you are to segues so I apologize in advance.....
Given you studies into "swinging the hands" vs "swinging the clubhead" would you say that Mr McHatton and maybe even Mr Hogan (check out the oh so beautiful little pitch shots he's hitting in the Hogan in Mexico the Magical Swing of Ben Hogan video) are Swinging the Clubhead during their languid Lagging Takeaway motions?
I have been goofing with "swinging the clubhead" on the backswing and "swinging the Hands" on the way down......... something to be said for it Ill tell ya.
I swing the clubhead Back and Down for a lot of pitch shots , high soft shots , it goes nicely with cut shots , bumping the flange under the ball etc kind of an up near low point spanking of the ground under the ball with the bounce exposed. But I do go back and forth while hitting wedge shots between swinging the head and the hands on the way down......two different ball flights, compressions.
Id never swing the clubhead on the way down with a driver say but on the way back? Maybe... Whats the difference between a Lagging TAkeaway and Swinging the clubhead anyways? Its purely experimental right now but this seems like an appropriate venue to discuss this given Mr McHattons silky smooth flowing motion. I dunno what he does, not saying he does swing the head.
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12-28-2010, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left
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City as an aside , and I do recognize how averse you are to segues so I apologize in advance.....
Whats the difference between a Lagging TAkeaway and Swinging the clubhead anyways? Its purely experimental right now but this seems like an appropriate venue to discuss this given Mr McHattons silky smooth flowing motion. I dunno what he does, not saying he does swing the head.
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I probably don't belong in this discussion, but I have some experience with a lagging takeway from adjusted address - it's just like dragging the dry pitbull /wet mop the wrong way - if that's a comment worth mentioning?
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12-28-2010, 10:17 PM
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Air, we all belong in the LBG treehouse!
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I probably don't belong in this discussion, but I have some experience with a lagging takeway from adjusted address - it's just like dragging the dry pitbull /wet mop the wrong way - if that's a comment worth mentioning?
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Mr. Mchatton and Brian Gay, I think, drag the hands back so your observation is valid.
This is very subtle stuff for me and I'm sure OB and Daryl have their reasons for their points of view. The benefit here is trying to follow these fine men and their careful reasoning regardless of our positions, as I'm sure you'd agree.
BTW, I just booked my air fair to see Lynn April 17th - 21st.
I'm going to keep my posts shorter now and less vapid.
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12-28-2010, 10:33 PM
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InnerCity and OuterCity -- Worlds Collide In a Cosmic Circumstance -- Video at 11:00!
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BTW, I just booked my air fare to see Lynn April 17th - 21st.
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Waitin' for ya, Patrick.
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We're gonna "get'er done"!

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12-28-2010, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by innercityteacher
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I'm going to keep my posts shorter now and less vapid.
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Why less Vapid?
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12-28-2010, 11:01 PM
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Vapid Is As Vapid Does
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Why less Vapid?
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I [heart] vapid!

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12-28-2010, 11:03 PM
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Forest Gump?
Nice one.
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12-28-2010, 11:09 PM
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I'm using the book more now.
Originally Posted by Daryl
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Why less Vapid?
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And I realize that Power and Precision need each other so I need to be more precise and less vapid!
I am still feeling guilty for a "vapid" remark I directed at OB or you, Daryl , almost 800 posts ago so I am engaging in a little self-flaggelation.
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12-28-2010, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by innercityteacher
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And I realize that Power and Precision need each other so I need to be more precise and less vapid!
I am still feeling guilty for a "vapid" remark I directed at OB or you, Daryl , almost 800 posts ago so I am engaging in a little self-flaggelation.
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Dont risk going blind dude , I dont even remember your remarks directed at me.
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