I am having difficulty relating the bottom picture (above) to step 3 picture in your previous post. In the bottom picture above, the clubshaft and face are in line. Whereas, in the step 3 picture, there is a distinct angle between the clubshaft (green line) and the clubface (black line). The distinct angle appears to me to be the result of rotating the grip. Sounds similar to what OB was commenting on.
Did I mis-interpret your original drawings?
I think that the original Drawings were bad drawings. They were hurried and although I thought they conveyed the book, and my interpretation, I no longer thing so. I messed up the shaft and clubface as you pointed out. I think that I should use "Hook-face" only when illustrating a rotated grip. I didn't have the shaft aligned correctly in the original drawings.
Whats interesting to me is how many golfers maintain a swing which keeps the baseline the same as the ball target line? I don't think many do, I think it moves around based on other components of the swing. Now it may be very consistent from swing to swing thus they can predict the ball flight, but to think they can line up and swing it on a plane line square to the stance line....not so sure.
Yoda said he witnessed Hogan with a closed stance line but traced a baseline left of the ball target line and hit a fade, time after time. I wonder how good he would have been trying to hit a square square shot? Maybe not good at all?
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The Club is on an Inclined Angle and moves on that flat Angle (end over end - Gyroscope). The Plane. Can you Align the Plane? Yes. Trace the Baseline.
A simple drill to show how the Right Shoulder can move On-Plane and Downplane and support the #3 PP.
Address the ball. Add more Knee Bend. Move your Left Foot 6" away from the Plane Line. Start with short Strokes. You'll need to move closer to the Ball, but that shows how far away golfers normally stand, and always reaching for the ball with the right arm and shoulder. An On-Plane Right Forearm Wedge at Impact Fix will show you the same Ball Location as this drill.
My questions involves the location of the hands in those pics and what club is illustrated, a driver or a mid or short iron. When I play a driver forward I set the club with the face square and even if I move it back to just off my forward heel I still set the driver face square. Of course I never use adjusted address, I always have the club shaft and left arm aligned. Over the many years adjusted address always scrambled my brain so I gave up on it and start at "almost fix". I rarely ever fade the ball and often have a soft draw. At any rate I am glad you haven't brought up D plane. I just laugh at those discussions. I have worked with setting up, ball position, address location for years and somehow have been able to hit the ball mostly with a slight draw to where I want it without trackman knowledge. Understanding impact location, low point and plane lines haves been sufficient. So I guess Mike Hebron would saw I have "learned by playing" and others would say I have just "dug it out of the dirt". I will admit my alignments have often been corrected by golfgnome! So realizing I am left handed perhaps Daryl could create some of his wonderful drawings for a left hander illustrating starting from fix or adjusted address. Just kidding Daryl, I always look at your drawings with a mirror. Years ago I used to set up my video camera and record golf videos playing on the TV in a mirror and then play them back so they would be left handed.
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