KevCarter is a humble guy and a good PGA teaching Pro. He reserves the right to be wrong. I like that example.
ICT
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
KevCarter is a humble guy and a good PGA teaching Pro. He reserves the right to be wrong. I like that example.
ICT
Hope you didn't take my post personally, ICT. I was picking up on the tone -- "less than expert" -- of your own.
All of us start golf as a beginner. Most of us remain a beginner. We decide -- consciously or otherwise -- that "Hey, this is not for me" and walk away. Wonderful! Carpe diem and best of luck on your new adventures.
Others hang around and just "have fun". That's the purpose, right? After all, golf ain't "world peace"! Those who can keep it on that level -- little effort, little result, lots of fun -- enjoy a pleasant recreational experience. (At least so I'm told. )
Hope you didn't take my post personally, ICT. I was picking up on the tone -- "less than expert" -- of your own.
All of us start golf as a beginner. Most of us remain a beginner. We decide -- consciously or otherwise -- that "Hey, this is not for me" and walk away. Wonderful! Carpe diem and best of luck on your new adventures.
Others hang around and just "have fun". That's the purpose, right? After all, golf ain't "world peace"! Those who can keep it on that level -- little effort, little result, lots of fun -- enjoy a pleasant recreational experience. (At least so I'm told. )
And then there's the rest of us.
Lynn, I was pleased that there were no glaring mistakes pointed out by my superiors. As for my lowly status, better to be a gatekeeper in the Kingdom than seated at the first table in the bad place. The old Renaissance formula for something of value was "light and heat" meaning instruction with amiable feelings. That's my goal. Like you, I am mystified when people slam HK or another instructor rather than deal with what they actually taught or wrote or at least ask questions.
If I was afraid of being publicly corrected on any subject, I would not wander out in public. That also confuses me about HK's critics. They want to play in the middle of a busy street and not get interrupted by heavy traffic, or they then get upset.
They are over-indulged children.
ICT
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Thanks for your ideas. I will try what you suggested.
I have watched Lynn's video many times, but I do not really see his weight on the left side on the backstroke.
I guess the trouble I am having with hitting stems from the (maybe mistaken) belief that you somehow need to make up for the missing centrifugal force by speeding up the right arm. On the other hand, you still need rhythm. So the right arm must not "overtake" the RPM of the pivot, right?
What do you guys think of this sound issue I mentioned? Do you feel that the clubhead makes more noise with swinging than with hitting?
Thanks for your ideas. I will try what you suggested.
I have watched Lynn's video many times, but I do not really see his weight on the left side on the backstroke.
I guess the trouble I am having with hitting stems from the (maybe mistaken) belief that you somehow need to make up for the missing centrifugal force by speeding up the right arm. On the other hand, you still need rhythm. So the right arm must not "overtake" the RPM of the pivot, right?
What do you guys think of this sound issue I mentioned? Do you feel that the clubhead makes more noise with swinging than with hitting?
hey Par, first up... you know i'm no authority don't you ? just trying to find my way like you & only been at LBG a few short months.
my thoughts fwiw ref the sound..... with hitting we are usually employing an angle hinge rather than a horizontal one so that may account for some reduction in the swish sound but Lynn demonstrates hitting & swinging in the video section as equally effective & all the ball knows is clubhead speed & compression (right ?) so a good hit stroke has to be producing similar clubhead speed to a good swing stroke.
so if the above is correct, i guess that leaves us with learning how to thrust the power package so that it generates as much clubhead speed as when we swing it.
i think most of us start golf swinging the arms, so it is natural that it might take quite a bit of learning & to become decent at hitting. there is obviously power to be had from that punch motion in hitting if we think of boxers generating the huge power they do or those martial arts guys who punch bricks etc.
interested to hear how you get on
Thanks for your ideas. I will try what you suggested.
I have watched Lynn's video many times, but I do not really see his weight on the left side on the backstroke.
I guess the trouble I am having with hitting stems from the (maybe mistaken) belief that you somehow need to make up for the missing centrifugal force by speeding up the right arm. On the other hand, you still need rhythm. So the right arm must not "overtake" the RPM of the pivot, right?
What do you guys think of this sound issue I mentioned? Do you feel that the clubhead makes more noise with swinging than with hitting?
All strokes, sir, are to be heavy and deliberate (except in Swinging and even then just a little quicker). Extensor Action gives the stroke it's heaviness, while the Axis Tilt starts the Hit down the Plane. Then, I believe you extend your right arm or elbow where the right forearm's alignment was set at Impact Fix and through following to Both Arms Straight and then the Finish Swivel. You aim your forearm and fire it being very careful to fire the arm/elbow and not the Bent Right Wrist. Keep it bent until you get to finish by the instrumentality of the Finish (not Dutch) Swivel!
You must let your Pivot work from the top though, or you will not create the necessary LAG in time and space to turn your club face into a wrecking ball. You are creating sort of a two stage rocket with Pivot being stage one and then, once you feel the LAG on your # 3 PP, you fire it into the track established by Impact Fix.
If you do this well, you will have more friends and be popular. Some people in PA, GA, MN, IL, and New England will welcome you around their campfire on a cold, dark night. You will here a rifle shot sort of impact sound. You will achieve "coolness" and you will feel better about God and the life he has given you. You will make friendly wagers and win several giving a portion of the winnings to your family, the poor, and a higher yielding CD!
Keep your weight left at Impact Fix which should be logical since you are simulating the club having gone down through the ball on your way to Both Arms Straight, and keep your head Stationary at the Impact Fix point while you RFT to shoulder height. RFT feels like picking the club straight up and moving it over your shoulder. Watch any Fred Couples video as well as Yoda and Ted Fort videos, here on this site.
If you are strongly interested in this procedure, then send a PM to OB Left and Daryl, or Bagger or Yoda or JerryG or KevCarter. They are helpful and wiser than I.
As always, I am the lowest instruction-offering newbie on this site. "No,I am Spartacus!"
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
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I have been amazed at how far I can hit the ball with what feels like a painfully slow right arm thrust (and conversely how screwed up a shot can get when I thrust "fast" -- which probably means "early").
A lot of times my swing thought is "slow, heavy, deliberate"...
I think it works because of mechanical advantage of the club still whipping through from left wrist uncocking and release of the lag. I'm still studying.
Also, remember, it's even hard for a trained eye to truly tell if someone is hitting or swinging, so the "speed" of the thrust may be more one of feeling.
If you do this well, you will have more friends and be popular. Some people in PA, GA, MN, IL, and New England will welcome you around their campfire on a cold, dark night. You will here a rifle shot sort of impact sound. You will achieve "coolness" and you will feel better about God and the life he has given you. You will make friendly wagers and win several giving a portion of the winnings to your family, the poor, and a higher yielding CD!
Sounds like it's worth the effort.
I find your explanations extremely helpful, ICT. As for the weight left issue I might have misunderstood your first post. Of course the weight will be favoring the left side at impact fix (at least if both the body and the hands are in impact fix). I understood you were suggesting it should stay on the left side through the entire backstroke.
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