Spine Tilt

[O.B.Left]

havent heard the modern driver on left upward aft before, be interested in hearing others thoughts on that.

What did Martin Hall recommend for the long bomb C.G. ? Plane line , face angle , ball position, point of contact on the ball etc.

I believe Martin is Trackman savvy in addition to being a TGM'r, which could/maybe/ perhaps make for a different procedure given total Homer's total compression via Horizontal, 2-C.

[12 piece bucket]

What did Martin Hall recommend for the long bomb C.G. ? Plane line , face angle , ball position, point of contact on the ball etc.

I believe Martin is Trackman savvy in addition to being a TGM'r, which could/maybe/ perhaps make for a different procedure given total Homer's total compression via Horizontal, 2-C.

Couple of notions/observations . . . . .

Two ways to get the tilt . . .

1. Tilt your tea cup by sliding your hips=PREFERRED METHOD
2. Tilt your tea cup by dropping your head back=PERVERTS METHOD (by classicist of course)

The plane of the arm swing is largely controlled by the trajectory of the shoulder turn (right shoulder geometry) . . . the plane/axis of the shoulder turn is largely controlled by the motion of the spine (extending and side bending) and hips . . . which in turn are largely a function of the flexion and extension of the knees.

So this whole notion of how much axis tilt and how little axis tilt is relative . . . cats get skint different ways every day . . . BUT you'll find that a lot of bombers have tons of axis tilt . . . see below . . . this begs the question WHY? I think this goes back to trackman data (for us yellow book types . . . angle of approach and angle of attack . . . and conversely angle of "ascent"). Axis tilt basically allows these cats to achieve the launch conditions to bomb it . . . BUT some of these cats will miss a 50 yard fairway by 30 yards too.







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Another piece to manipulating those trackman numbers is how fast you "RE-PLANE" the club . . .


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[chipingguru]

those pictures are later in the swing, I always thought of axis tilt as taking place at impact. If you look at Jack at impact it is not a big move, which is why he had such great balance and more consistent than Tiger, IMO.

[12 piece bucket]

those pictures are later in the swing, I always thought of axis tilt as taking place at impact. If you look at Jack at impact it is not a big move, which is why he had such great balance and more consistent than Tiger, IMO.

Certainly . . . those "positions" later in the swing BUT those positions are arrived at from moving through other positions. Are you submitting that the differences in the pics are just "window dressing"? So all these pics have the potential to produce the same ball flight in terms of curvature, spin and trajectory? I'm all ears . . . .

[gmbtempe]

When I think of Axis tilt I think of it face on at impact. I mean a guy like Charlie Wi can get that look at those points in the swing and he has less tilt than most at impact.

If you are going to look down the line it shows up pretty good as well, look at Ricky Fowler versus say Mac O' Grady at impact, big, no make it huge difference.

[chipingguru]

I don't think you can tell ball flight by those pics. Would depend on ball position. Nicklaus had different flight than Trevino but each could produce the others.

[12 piece bucket]

I don't think you can tell ball flight by those pics. Would depend on ball position. Nicklaus had different flight than Trevino but each could produce the others.

Dude how many green jackets does lee buck have. Plus in his day fat Jack was waaaay longer than his peers. Lee included..... Lee had low ball mechanics......Jack had moon ball mechanics.......

[Daryl]

Dude how many green jackets does lee buck have.

Low Blow