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Old 02-14-2011, 11:33 AM
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... I believe that in the end Homer had a preference for the TSP and not shifting down to the lower elbow planes.


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Yes, My good neighbor.

I did not see any explicit Ref. to TSP only implicit Ref to "more upright" plane. And I do see explicit Ref. to Elbow Plane with an implicit range of "compensations" to accommodate an EP as it is established off the "more upright" planes.
I cannot remember where Homer Kelley stated a preference for a component variation beyond the geometry for its accommodation.
But I could have missed it so if anyone has a specific Ref. I would appreciate seeing it.

I do see 7-23 par. 3 as significant alignment discussion.

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Old 02-14-2011, 03:07 PM
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Yes, My good neighbor.

I did not see any explicit Ref. to TSP only implicit Ref to "more upright" plane. And I do see explicit Ref. to Elbow Plane with an implicit range of "compensations" to accommodate an EP as it is established off the "more upright" planes.
I cannot remember where Homer Kelley stated a preference for a component variation beyond the geometry for its accommodation.
But I could have missed it so if anyone has a specific Ref. I would appreciate seeing it.

I do see 7-23 par. 3 as significant alignment discussion.

The Bear

I think the zeroed #3 angle implies Left Shoulder Plane......zero shift , no #3 accumulator..............no roll power as theres no clubhead travel. Thats the thing that strikes me as ungolf like , why swing a driver with the grip running through the life line? Double Barrel? Is that it? Underpowered but simple and effective maybe to Homer's mind back then. Im not familiar with his early editions and the double barrel pattern or patterns.

Whereas in 12-2 in my 6th edition, he specifies .....Strong Single Action grip, Triple Barrel (2/3/4) , Turned Shoulder Plane and Zero Shift. A different animal all together. One that requires a Low TSP/high Elbow combo plane as I read it/define it anyways. How you define things makes a big difference here too.......Can an elbow plane be a TSP at the same time for instance? Is there a range of Elbow Plane Angles? Im using the "range of angles" definition for both TSP and Elbow Planes so they can meet up. Like in the photo accompanying the TSP 10-6-B #1.


Glad you brought this up.

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Old 02-14-2011, 03:55 PM
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I think the zeroed #3 angle implies Left Shoulder Plane......zero shift , no #3 accumulator..............no roll power as theres no clubhead travel. Thats the thing that strikes me as ungolf like ..............
How about using this procedure for Chipping? or Putting?
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Old 02-14-2011, 05:24 PM
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Gentlemen,
Let's re-remind ourself that I have quoted from 7-23 par. 3, this is delivery path, hands. I have only used Homer Kelley's words. My own, personal, feeling is that I am comfortable. But I also will not put my own words behind it until it has been analized by others.

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Old 02-14-2011, 06:18 PM
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How about using this procedure for Chipping? or Putting?

Yes for sure......I was talking Pivot Strokes.
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:08 PM
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Line not Circular.
7-23 par. 4

"The Circle Path of the Hands is mandatory for all Non-Pivot Strokes (6-L-0) whether Hitting or Swinging (7-19). The "Axis Tilt" (2-H allows a Line Delivery Path but does not require it."

Homer Kelley excluded Non-Pivot strokes for par. 3 ( chips etc.)

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