Left wrist cock causes more right wrist cupping

[EdZ]

CK - try this drill....

stand without a club in golf posture

make a fist with your left hand and point your thumb away from the target (so the back of the left hand faces away from you, 'turned' 90 degrees)

grab your left thumb 'underhanded' with your right (so if you pointed the right thumb, both thumbs are pointed away from the target)

Now - without doing anything else with the hands - use your right arm to lift your left thumb towards the tip of your right shoulder while keeping the left arm fairly straight

You'll see that the right wrist can, and should, stay in the same position - 'level'

It is the right arm action that allows the left wrist to cock, while the right stays uncocked

This drill has many benefits, come back to it when learning about extensor action

[O.B.Left]

Now - without doing anything else with the hands - use your right arm to lift your left thumb towards the tip of your left shoulder while keeping the left arm fairly straight

Hey Edz how are ya man? Wouldnt that be a theoretical Left Shoulder Plane though? Gettin off topic I know but just saying.

[EdZ]

Doing well... getting settled in China.

That was a typo on my part! Should have read tip of 'right' shoulder.

I corrected my post.

[whip]

If you look at the angle of dianes wrist cock you will see that it is less than 90 degrees, the extent of the wrist cock without bending the wrist is minimal, the ideal for geometry would be to not cock the right wrist but most probably do because most cock the left wrist beyond dianes. Physics and geometry neither must be perfect to play great golf

[O.B.Left]

If you look at the angle of dianes wrist cock you will see that it is less than 90 degrees, the extent of the wrist cock without bending the wrist is minimal, the ideal for geometry would be to not cock the right wrist but most probably do because most cock the left wrist beyond dianes. Physics and geometry neither must be perfect to play great golf

You can have a good amount of #2 at Top without cocking the right hand.

The amount of cup in the left wrist at Top is left hand grip type dependent. It is called Flat but it is not necessarily literally flat for all but the weakest of left hand grips. Research "geometrically flat". And take a look at how when hanging naturally at your side your left forearm and hand are slightly turned , towards your mouth actually , not at a 90 to the target line .....if theres a natural or neutral amount of turn to the left hand grip thats it. This slightly turned condition will have a corresponding cup at top, assuming the plane of the left wrist cock is purely vertical in Homer speak. No horizontal left wrist motion.


And for further food for thought .......if the palm of the left hand ideally lays flat to plane at Top then the only plane angle that would see a corresponding literally flat left wrist would be one that has the entire left arm and left shoulder laying on the plane ......the theoretical Left Shoulder Plane. Which is less than ideal.

In my opinion a lot of guys in trying to create a literally flat left wrist at Top do so via ill advised horizontal left hand motion. An arching, a horizontal motion which breaks the vertical plane of the left wrist cock but gives them the literally flat left wrist they desire. And a left wrist riding a plane that points above the ball. You can compensate , correct it on the Downstroke , lots of guys do, but why bother if simplicity is a goal.

[whip]

Agreed there can be that tendency and you can have a good amount of 2 without cocking the right wrist but there can be the tendency to cock the right wrist with excessive #2, what I do is lay the flat left wrist on the pads to double check it which is not perfectly anatomically flat slightly cupped as you mention in comparison to the left arm but in comparison to the plane it is flat, I think there is a reason that the angle between dianes left forearm and club shaft angle in ch. 6 demonstrating a fully cocked position was only around 70 degrees.

[ckniker]

Not to get off topic, but, who is Diane????

Is it the member of the B52's who doubles as the TGM book model?

As an aside, I hope that the next edition of the book comes out with clearer pictures....