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Old 12-24-2011, 08:24 AM
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Hello Mr. Bucket,

Would it be possible to be a HITTER (pa3 and pa2 rekeased at same time) using all left arm, with pa1 releasing only at delivery phase as an ADD-ON and is completely optional. In the golfer's mind/intent, it would be just pa3. I know pa2 will be released as well, but that golfer is not thinking about pa2 at all. In fact, he is consciously avoiding too much release of it beyond a "level" left wrist.

So, it's all pivot and left arm releasing the pa3 (aka supination Mr. Hogan made famous) right after transition with a huge pa3 angle. I "feel" it's swinging, not hitting, mainly because it uses the left side and the pivot.
4 barrel hitting...

but Hitting is gonna eventually stress the shaft differently than swinging....that's why you gotta position the right forearm in a way to PUSH the sweetspot....the sweetspot will align "looking at the ball/plane line" earlier....

So have a look at the cattle man's crack....wooooooo!!!! Here we come Brokeback Mountain! Coachman's crack....Swinger's love a working man's crack This cat will even discuss different cracks with you!!!



Note how the forem is aligned with the right shoulder here...backstop for PUSHING....pivot brings the rightshoulder fowward...then the right elbow right tricep LAUNCHES THAT MOFO OFF THE BACKSTOP LAUNCHING PAD WHICH WAS SET IN MOTION BY THE PIVOT....




Or maybe if you don't like a big burly type...you can get you a toofless mullet fireball....here's some more DRIVE LOADING....LAUNCHING PAD PIVOT...PUNCHING...


Note the steep shoulders...Note the "shutty-ish hockey blade sweetspot" ... that stick is rectangular...so he's loading for Hitting...that the lil' edge of the stick...the broad edge...Note the PUNCH ELBOW....elbow aligned for DRIVE LOADING...

NO LOADING FOR SWINGING IN HOCKEY....BAD: Forearm aligned to pull....GOOD: Forearm aligned to PUSH...Slapshot/Punch/Open Palm Strike/Shot Put vs. Forearm aligend to whip crack/fly cast/karate chop/slap


So you gotta pick whether you like a Coachman's Crack or a Backstop Blastoff
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Old 12-25-2011, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post
4 barrel hitting...

but Hitting is gonna eventually stress the shaft differently than swinging....that's why you gotta position the right forearm in a way to PUSH the sweetspot....the sweetspot will align "looking at the ball/plane line" earlier....

So have a look at the cattle man's crack....wooooooo!!!! Here we come Brokeback Mountain! Coachman's crack....Swinger's love a working man's crack This cat will even discuss different cracks with you!!!



Note how the forem is aligned with the right shoulder here...backstop for PUSHING....pivot brings the rightshoulder fowward...then the right elbow right tricep LAUNCHES THAT MOFO OFF THE BACKSTOP LAUNCHING PAD WHICH WAS SET IN MOTION BY THE PIVOT....




Or maybe if you don't like a big burly type...you can get you a toofless mullet fireball....here's some more DRIVE LOADING....LAUNCHING PAD PIVOT...PUNCHING...


Note the steep shoulders...Note the "shutty-ish hockey blade sweetspot" ... that stick is rectangular...so he's loading for Hitting...that the lil' edge of the stick...the broad edge...Note the PUNCH ELBOW....elbow aligned for DRIVE LOADING...

NO LOADING FOR SWINGING IN HOCKEY....BAD: Forearm aligned to pull....GOOD: Forearm aligned to PUSH...Slapshot/Punch/Open Palm Strike/Shot Put vs. Forearm aligend to whip crack/fly cast/karate chop/slap


So you gotta pick whether you like a Coachman's Crack or a Backstop Blastoff
I like the SWING of the coachman. What do YOU prefer?
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Old 12-25-2011, 07:57 AM
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I like the SWING of the coachman. What do YOU prefer?
slapshot........
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Old 12-25-2011, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post
slapshot........
Why? Why? Why? (10 character rule? This forum don't want a man of few words? )
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Old 12-25-2011, 03:02 PM
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slapshot........
The hockey player looks to my eye to be using what we'd call a Shoulder Throw .....
His active shoulder takes his bent trail arm close to the ice before he thrusts, bends the shaft along the fore and aft axis against the ice. Sticks bend in that direction far easier than they do in the other direction (top / bottom) given the rectangular design of the shaft when viewed in section. They were made that way.

The horizontal hinging fans will also like to point out the rolling club face er blade post impact. Cant shoot it 100 mph with vertical hinging. The closed face approach to impact is undone during the contact with the ice but releases . The puck leaves square to the blade but spins like a frisbee to make it fly. No backspin. Vertical has it place though....for a high flip shot etc .

I have this suspicion that one reason hockey players make good golfers is that they immediately get how the ball needs to be stuck with a closing face. Well that and the fact that girls love a guy in smart golf attire.

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Old 12-25-2011, 04:14 PM
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His active shoulder takes his bent trail arm close to the ice before he thrusts
That's why they make good golfers - they don't over-accelerate their hands or as Ben would say, they don't add.
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Old 12-25-2011, 06:35 PM
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That's why they make good golfers - they don't over-accelerate their hands or as Ben would say, they don't add.
Never did know what he meant by that.

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Old 12-25-2011, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Never did know what he meant by that.
In Ben's tire drill, one bounce is OK, but more than one means that you added!
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Old 12-25-2011, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
The hockey player looks to my eye to be using what we'd call a Shoulder Throw .....
His active shoulder takes his bent trail arm close to the ice before he thrusts, bends the shaft along the fore and aft axis against the ice. Sticks bend in that direction far easier than they do in the other direction (top / bottom) given the rectangular design of the shaft when viewed in section. They were made that way.

The horizontal hinging fans will also like to point out the rolling club face er blade post impact. Cant shoot it 100 mph with vertical hinging. The closed face approach to impact is undone during the contact with the ice but releases . The puck leaves square to the blade but spins like a frisbee to make it fly. No backspin. Vertical has it place though....for a high flip shot etc .

I have this suspicion that one reason hockey players make good golfers is that they immediately get how the ball needs to be stuck with a closing face. Well that and the fact that girls love a guy in smart golf attire.
I see str8 4-barrel hitting....angled hinging on flat plane....I see layback in a bunch of them hockey shots....paddle wheel motion...drive out...red meat hitting
HITTING




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Old 12-25-2011, 11:52 PM
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I see str8 4-barrel hitting....angled hinging on flat plane....I see layback in a bunch of them hockey shots....paddle wheel motion...drive out...red meat hitting
HITTING
Not swinging from the feet, no big hip turn turning the shoulders but yes red meat hitting for sure. Right elbow positioned for the out and out push. Not even close to a side arm throw like some golfing hitters do.

I dunno about angled , I see (and feel) a ton of blade rotation for the basic low slapper. All that bending in slow mo may distort the look of the face for a bit but It does roll over quickly.

Its a different deal maybe, that disc wants to be spun so it flies like a frisbee.

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