When you say "On-Plane" are you saying the RFFW 's Plane travels back and forth on the Inclined Plane ? Maybe for Angled Hinging, but otherwise I don't see that.
The #3 PP and the Center of Gravity of the Clubhead Travel the Swing Plane for both Hitters and Swingers. The Left Arm Wedge and Right Forearm Wedge are Aligned on the Plane of the Right Wrist Bend. They "Saddle" the Swing Plane. The Right Wrist Bend varies so then, likewise, the Wedges Alignment to the Swing Plane will vary.
Originally Posted by O.B.Left
OK lay it on us.
I wish I could. If you knew about it, then you'd be playing on the "Hooters" Tour. That's why I'm doing the video. "Right Forearm Participation in the Golf Swing: per TGM"
Originally Posted by O.B.Left
I see the Right Forearm Tracing , pointing at , the Delivery Line (of the Hands) while the #3pp traces the Plane Line.
The Right Forearm can Trace the Plane line when it's On-Plane. The Right Forearm can be On-Plane when the Right Elbow is On-Plane.
Originally Posted by O.B.Left
The Plane of the Right Forearm Flying Wedge rotating around the LCOG....... to a degree consistent with the Hinge Action employed when travelling through the impact area.
Oh? Actually, the Right Forearm doesn't rotate around the LCOG. It Rotates around the Hinge.
When you throw a Javelin, you don't rotate around the LCOG. When you skip a stone on the surface of water, you don't rotate the LCOG. If you do, then the stone dives into the water and the Javelin impels a spectator. Both Throwing a Javelin and Skipping a Stone use Right Forearm Wedge Geometry. And with both activities, the Right Forearm Wedge Rotates around the Right Elbow. By the way, if you did rotate around the LCOG, you would be Swiveling. The Golf Shaft Rotates around the LCOG but not the Wedges.
You could make the argument that the LCOG and Wedges rotate together around the Hinge, but then I would point out to you that the Rotation is another one of Golf's illusions.
I know how difficult this stuff is to understand. Not for you so much but for almost everyone else. The things I say must sound like gibberish or at least as incoherent as 12 Pc Bucket after a weekend binge hugging the "Still". I'm not crazy like Mike O.
I can assure everyone that concepts in TGM are easy to understand.
I wish I could. If you knew about it, then you'd be playing on the "Hooters" Tour. That's why I'm doing the video. "Right Forearm Participation in the Golf Swing: per TGM"
Im not on the Hooters tour? When did that happen? [/quote]
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The Right Forearm can Trace the Plane line when it's On-Plane. The Right Forearm can be On-Plane when the Right Elbow is On-Plane.
Yes agreed. This is a good point ...... Trace with the #3pp only.
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Oh? Actually, the Right Forearm doesn't rotate around the LCOG. It Rotates around the Hinge.
When you throw a Javelin, you don't rotate around the LCOG. When you skip a stone on the surface of water, you don't rotate the LCOG. If you do, then the stone dives into the water and the Javelin impels a spectator. Both Throwing a Javelin and Skipping a Stone use Right Forearm Wedge Geometry. And with both activities, the Right Forearm Wedge Rotates around the Right Elbow. By the way, if you did rotate around the LCOG, you would be Swiveling. The Golf Shaft Rotates around the LCOG but not the Wedges.
If the Plane of the respective Wedges maintain a constant relationship to each other (90 degrees say) and to the club shaft (top and aft) and the shaft rotates around the LCOG wouldn't the wedges rotate also? In other words don't the wedges rotate with Hinge Action as well as swivel action?
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I can assure everyone that concepts in TGM are easy to understand.
If the Plane of the respective Wedges maintain a constant relationship to each other (90 degrees say) and to the club shaft (top and aft) and the shaft rotates around the LCOG wouldn't the wedges rotate also? In other words don't the wedges rotate with Hinge Action as well as swivel action?
I'd say the Hinge Action moves the wedges that make the shaft rotate around the LCOG.
The #3 PP and the Center of Gravity of the Clubhead Travel the Swing Plane for both Hitters and Swingers. The Left Arm Wedge and Right Forearm Wedge are Aligned on the Plane of the Right Wrist Bend. They "Saddle" the Swing Plane. The Right Wrist Bend varies so then, likewise, the Wedges Alignment to the Swing Plane will vary.
I wish I could. If you knew about it, then you'd be playing on the "Hooters" Tour. That's why I'm doing the video. "Right Forearm Participation in the Golf Swing: per TGM"
The Right Forearm can Trace the Plane line when it's On-Plane. The Right Forearm can be On-Plane when the Right Elbow is On-Plane.
Oh? Actually, the Right Forearm doesn't rotate around the LCOG. It Rotates around the Hinge.
When you throw a Javelin, you don't rotate around the LCOG. When you skip a stone on the surface of water, you don't rotate the LCOG. If you do, then the stone dives into the water and the Javelin impels a spectator. Both Throwing a Javelin and Skipping a Stone use Right Forearm Wedge Geometry. And with both activities, the Right Forearm Wedge Rotates around the Right Elbow. By the way, if you did rotate around the LCOG, you would be Swiveling. The Golf Shaft Rotates around the LCOG but not the Wedges.
You could make the argument that the LCOG and Wedges rotate together around the Hinge, but then I would point out to you that the Rotation is another one of Golf's illusions.
I know how difficult this stuff is to understand. Not for you so much but for almost everyone else. The things I say must sound like gibberish or at least as incoherent as 12 Pc Bucket after a weekend binge hugging the "Still". I'm not crazy like Mike O.
I can assure everyone that concepts in TGM are easy to understand.
Daryl....could you make a device say like putting two rulers together with a hinge that could be gripped with the hinge at the right wrist joint...the lower ruler griped like a club...the upper ruler running up the right forearm and sticking on the players right rib cage and some how attach a club to this theoretical device?
Been there, done that. I designed and built 3 Alignment Learning Aids to teach players how to Hinge and use the Right Forearm Angle of Approach. Dual Horizontal, Angled and Dual Vertical. You need only two Dowels and a coupler to connect them (or use your Left Hand)
TO USE: Hold the "Paddle-Wheel" Stick Perpendicular to the Associated Plane with your Left Hand. With your Right Hand, Grip the Lever Stick at Impact Fix with your Right Forearm On-Plane and the #3 PP on the Aft Side of the Shaft. Move the "Lever" Stick back and forth with your Right Hand, Forearm and Elbow.
NOTE: Grip the Lever firmly with your Right Hand with a Bent and Level Wrist. Don't allow the right hand to rotate as you move back and forth. This is Hinge Action. If you loosen your Right Hand Grip and Allow the hand to Rotate while the Lever Stick moves, then you're Swiveling.
This teaches Hinge Action and the Right Forearm Angle of Approach for that Hinge Action(and much more). These devices will force you to Hinge through Impact and You CANNOT Swivel through Impact with these devices.
Nice D . Different point of view or machine so to speak from 1L but not inconsistent . Did you draw Vertical Hinging?
Sorry if this is getting away from the Right Forearm Angle of A....
It's the same as 1-L. The Paddle-Wheel Hinge Stick is HKs Main Hinge Pin. But HK only indirectly tells you that it's the "Right Forearm Angle of Approach" that creates the "Hinge Action". Almost all TGM'ers are "trying" to Hinge by literally holding the Flat Left Wrist Vertical to one of the available Associated Planes and "The struggle" is endless as evidenced in a recent "Thread" started by a new member who is having difficulty holding the Left Wrist Flat. Because Hinge Action is not "cause"; it's an "Effect". These devices teach the Right Forearm Angle of Approach. By having an Approach Angle to deliver the Clubshaft and Clubhead to Impact, rather than using a "Swivel Action", the Hinge is brought into existence. By Varying the Angle of Approach, you change the Hinge Action.
If the new member and his teacher would use one of the devices I created, the student would learn the Angle of Approach of the Right Forearm and begin Hinging immediately. No more Struggle and he would soon grasp that the Right Forearm Angle of Approach is the mother of the concepts in TGM.
Homer Kelley knew this to be true:
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6-B-3-0 THE THIRD POWER ACCUMULATOR
With true Throw-Out Action (no manual Clubface manipulation), Centrifugal Force automatically aligns the Clubshaft and Clubface for Horizontal Hinging (10-10-D) regardless of the Grip being used. And Ball Position (2-N) for straight-away flight must agree with the amount of “Hookface” designed into the Club, and is, therefore, unalterable except with manual override action or adjustment of the Plane Line. True “Drive Out” Action holds the Clubface in Impact Fix alignment (7-10) and automatically produces Angled Hinging (10-10-C). Study 7-3 and 10-11-0-3. Regardless of Lag Loading Procedure, Vertical Hinging (10-10-B) is a deliberate manual manipulation.
With true Throw-Out Action (no manual Clubface manipulation), Centrifugal Force automatically aligns the Clubshaft and Clubface for Horizontal Hinging (10-10-D) regardless of the Grip being used. And Ball Position (2-N) for straight-away flight must agree with the amount of “Hookface” designed into the Club, and is, therefore, unalterable except with manual override action or adjustment of the Plane Line. True “Drive Out” Action holds the Clubface in Impact Fix alignment (7-10) and automatically produces Angled Hinging (10-10-C). Study 7-3 and 10-11-0-3. Regardless of Lag Loading Procedure, Vertical Hinging (10-10-B) is a deliberate manual manipulation.
Underline by Daryl.
What is the difference between "Drive Out" as you have quoted and "Throw Out" like it says in the 7. edition?
The clubface is "the flat left wrist" and the hinge is in the left arm. Set it at fix and hold it.
I think there is a lot of confusion in inderstanding-
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6-B-3-0 THE THIRD POWER ACCUMULATOR
With true Throw-Out Action (no manual Clubface manipulation), Centrifugal Force automatically aligns the Clubshaft and Clubface for Horizontal Hinging (10-10-D) regardless of the Grip being used. And Ball Position (2-N) for straight-away flight must agree with the amount of “Hookface” designed into the Club, and is, therefore, unalterable except with manual override action or adjustment of the Plane Line. True “Drive Out” Action holds the Clubface in Impact Fix alignment (7-10) and automatically produces Angled Hinging (10-10-C). Study 7-3 and 10-11-0-3. Regardless of Lag Loading Procedure, Vertical Hinging (10-10-B) is a deliberate manual manipulation.
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Please read my "sweet spot" thread down in the lab. And think through the dynamics, please!!
Three dimentional alignments to move ON a TWO dimensional plane. The hinge is Left side and keeps the "peas on the spoon"
Sorry- just my opinion- without motive.
HB
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