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Old 02-16-2012, 08:56 AM
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Tutleman's charts have NOTHING to do with your statement that Homer Kelley says all pros have thrown away lag pressure at impact. Too many folks here study Homer Kelley to try to baffle them with BS.

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Spend some time studying and find the quote yourself and not at me. Last smart guy who tried that was on the fourth green at TP south. I took a four wood and hit his ball into the ocean and walked on.
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:12 AM
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Spend some time studying and find the quote yourself and not at me. Last smart guy who tried that was on the fourth green at TP south. I took a four wood and hit his ball into the ocean and walked on.
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WOW!

I'll apologize now for not being able to find a quote that doesn't exist. I'm sure you believe it does, and you probably saw something similar on another site said by someone else. Going anti-lag is what some are trying to use to discredit TGM.

IMO, if Homer wasn't perfect, it wasn't because of his belief in THE SECRET OF GOLF.

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Old 02-16-2012, 10:11 AM
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Kev,

Most Pro's have Throw-away with full strokes. It's controlled. They're not perfect. You don't need a perfect swing to play professional golf.** However, they don't exhibit throwaway with less than full strokes no matter what shaft they use.

In Fact, they don't want to change it. They rely on Shaft makers to adjust flex characteristics to give them maximum distance/accuracy with their existing swing. If things go wrong, they blame the Clubmaker. It's always been "that way".

If you really want to see something funny, them make them all play with the same ball and same set of clubs. I'd pay to see that.

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Old 02-16-2012, 10:18 AM
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Kev,

Most Pro's have Throw-away with full strokes. It's controlled. They're not perfect. You don't need a perfect swing to play professional golf.** However, they don't exhibit throwaway with less than full strokes no matter what shaft they use.

In Fact, they don't want to change it. They rely on Shaft makers to adjust flex characteristics to give them maximum distance/accuracy with their existing swing. If things go wrong, they blame the Clubmaker.

It's always been "that way". If you really want to see something funny, them make them all play with the same ball and same set of clubs. I'd pay to see that.









**To be a Pro, you need great impact, some talent, some luck, a free steak dinner, someone to blow smoke up your butt, and another to interview you like you just solved world hunger. And you need someone to write the check.
Guys like Couples and Singh would be perfect examples of those without lag through impact. Their right hands aren't even on the club on many swings through the impact interval. However, as teachers is that what we try to convey to our students? Is that what Homer and Lynn are trying to teach us? Did Homer EVER say "all pros have lost their lag pressure at impact?"

Thanks Daryl,
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:41 AM
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If you play and practice everyday and are supremely gifted like a tour pro you can hit with certain parts of your anatomy if it works. However, IMO, the rest of us need lag and forward shaft lean on every shot every time to insure solid contact and control our eggs.
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:55 AM
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If you play and practice everyday and are supremely gifted like a tour pro you can hit with certain parts of your anatomy if it works. However, IMO, the rest of us need lag and forward shaft lean on every shot every time to insure solid contact and control our eggs.
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:26 AM
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If you play and practice everyday and are supremely gifted like a tour pro you can hit with certain parts of your anatomy if it works. However, IMO, the rest of us need lag and forward shaft lean on every shot every time to insure solid contact and control our eggs.
edit...you need the CORRECT amount of lean for the shot at hand...
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:09 PM
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edit...you need the CORRECT amount of lean for the shot at hand...
Mr. Bucket,

What is the geometry of Shaft Lean? I mean, what causes the lean or why does the shaft lean, or under what alignments does the shaft lean more or less, or what is the purpose of shaft lean??
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Old 02-16-2012, 03:59 PM
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edit...you need the CORRECT amount of lean for the shot at hand...
I agree with that edit Bucket however most of the time I find that too much lean is better than no lean at all-unless I am hitting a super lob perhaps or the intentional skull!
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Old 02-16-2012, 02:57 PM
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Guys like Couples and Singh would be perfect examples of those without lag through impact. Their right hands aren't even on the club on many swings through the impact interval.
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Kevin - they both have a ton of accumulator/pivot lag through impact, and most of the time they keep at least the trigger finger on the grip to receive it. But even if their hand comes completely off, the lag is still there, they are just not sensing it. Of course they are both Swingers, Hitters can't do that!
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