Joe I use random sweep, have never sweep released nor am I concerned with what it feels like to me to explain the physics, you say that a sweep release has no pulley this is incorrect the pulley is just larger than a snap release pulley. What you don't seem to understand is that in a sequenced release the number four must be released prior to #2 if u delay four until the last second releasing two and four at once this is not a sequenced release. I don't care for thT particular study and you still have not explained anywhere why the more #2 you have the more u must slow down the hands or how these graphs show that and I would highly question this data anyway. Constant hand speed is a virtue I'll say it again and again, and work on it constantly in practice along with extensor, they are the backbones to a smooth consistent structured motion. If u have a book, an look at the endless belt it in fact DOES have an uncocking club attached, grizzly Adams did have a beard! In a swing we are not driving the right shoulder the hips via the axis tilt pull the shoulder down plane which in turn throws the number four off the chest, then the number 2 uncocks and the number three rolls. If u realize what ur typing ur telling golfers to rapidly decelerate their arms and not be concerned with a constant hand speed, this is disastorous.
As far as you telling me that my notions are derived from my own procedure that you viewed on YouTube I'll refer u to this post by the late great Matthew
Originally Posted by Mathew
Strawman - This is where you misrepresent your opponents position so that you can more easily destroy it.
For example -
Person A - I think that you should use hands controlled pivot.
Person B - This can't be true because the hands don't move the pivot.
This is a common arguement used to critique the golfing machine. However their arguement is completely fallacious and shows nothing but their inability to read 3 simple words, one of which includes the word 'controlled' which says nothing about 'moving' the pivot. They are refuting (or attempting to because sometimes they don't even do that) their own phantom arguement.
Ad Hominem - This is where you attack your opponents position by means of attacking your opponent.
Person A - I think the club should move on a plane
Person B - I've seen your swing on youtube and it sucks so therefore the club shouldn't move on a plane.
This is just two of the logical fallacies used over and over .... lets see if we can find some more...
Joe I use random sweep, have never sweep released nor am I concerned with what it feels like to me to explain the physics, you say that a sweep release has no pulley this is incorrect the pulley is just larger than a snap release pulley. What you don't seem to understand is that in a sequenced release the number four must be released prior to #2 if u delay four until the last second releasing two and four at once this is not a sequenced release. I don't care for thT particular study and you still have not explained anywhere why the more #2 you have the more u must slow down the hands or how these graphs show that and I would highly question this data anyway. Constant hand speed is a virtue I'll say it again and again, and work on it constantly in practice along with extensor, they are the backbones to a smooth consistent structured motion. If u have a book, an look at the endless belt it in fact DOES have an uncocking club attached, grizzly Adams did have a beard! In a swing we are not driving the right shoulder the hips via the axis tilt pull the shoulder down plane which in turn throws the number four off the chest, then the number 2 uncocks and the number three rolls. If u realize what ur typing ur telling golfers to rapidly decelerate their arms and not be concerned with a constant hand speed, this is disastorous.
Oh boy!
Yes whip, in fact I do understand a sequenced release. But, the release of #4 happens as a blast off from the shoulder drive, and it happens late, but WAY before #2 in a snap release, whereas, a sweeper, random or full, lets the motion of #4 trigger #2 release with the club head moving backwards too early. This makes the #2 and #4 releases too close together.
If you aren't driving that right shoulder, you are using only hip pivot and tilt, which is anemic in comparison.
Gee whip, you really haven't been reading my posts. The player doesn't decelerate the left arm, the physics of a proper pivot driven Swing does it for him!
Specific- the thorax/arm curves for the pro but likely disruption for the amatures. "IF" #4 is "thrown off the chest" I would expect to see it in the pro curves. I have had some ideas on this subject but first I would like to hear your opinions.
HB
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Specific- the thorax/arm curves for the pro but likely disruption for the amatures. "IF" #4 is "thrown off the chest" I would expect to see it in the pro curves. I have had some ideas on this subject but first I would like to hear your opinions.
HB
Interesting. And how does Blast Off jive with Rhythm?
Interesting. You got your "plugged in" types. You got your "blast off " guys ... and I guess you got your 'NEVER touches " . Different strokes for different folks... OK by me.
Interesting. You got your "plugged in" types. You got your "blast off " guys ... and I guess you got your 'NEVER touches " . Different strokes for different folks... OK by me.
Other explanations for the "smooth" curves?
What are "plugged in" types?
HB
Sorry- did some research and I don't think I should continue this discussion here. Not that interesting anyway.
Last edited by HungryBear : 05-01-2012 at 07:50 AM.
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