4. DG is swinging with Full Power as described in the 7th edition of the golfing machine. I'm using the whipcracking technique taught by Tom Tomasello mentioned in the Golfing Machine per section 9-2 by Homer Kelley. Crack that whip!!! Devo. Circa early 80's.
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 08-09-2012 at 06:47 PM.
4. DG is swinging with Full Power as described in the 7th edition of the golfing machine. I'm using the whipcracking technique taught by Tom Tomasello mentioned in the Golfing Machine per section 9-2 by Homer Kelley. Crack that whip!!! Devo. Circa early 80's.
That is twice you have omitted to classify yourself as a right arm swinger or not. I will do as I suspect you do, continue to crack that whip as a left arm swinger who knows how to use his right arm. The mystery fades away.
That is twice you have omitted to classify yourself as a right arm swinger or not. I will do as I suspect you do, continue to crack that whip as a left arm swinger who knows how to use his right arm. The mystery fades away.
Bumpy
One section that Tomasello didn't agree with Homer on is that last paragraph of 7-19 with Twinge comment. I agree.
Just go to the Chapter Series on "Power" and you'll see how I use my right arm to accelerate the club.
On my full swing what I think about is three things, withdrawl the right hip, extensor action and keeping the hands on the straight delivery path.
Right Hip/Right Arm Backstroke, Right Arm/Left Hip Downstroke. On the downstroke, I just let the left hip respond to the action of the right arm (magic of the right forearm per 7-3), the hips lead the shoulders. The hips react with a sliding motion, then a rotational motion for release and follow through.
One section that Tomasello didn't agree with Homer on is that last paragraph of 7-19 with Twinge comment. I agree.
Just go to the Chapter Series on "Power" and you'll see how I use my right arm to accelerate the club.
On my full swing what I think about is three things, withdrawl the right hip, extensor action and keeping the hands on the straight delivery path.
Right Hip/Right Arm Backstroke, Right Arm/Left Hip Downstroke. On the downstroke, I just let the left hip respond to the action of the right arm (magic of the right forearm per 7-3), the hips lead the shoulders. The hips react with a sliding motion, then a rotational motion for release and follow through.
DG
I really enjoy the Tomasello videos despite what 'appears' to be some descrepencies. 'Appears' to me that Tom was teaching a left arm swing with a wrist throw. Yoda 'appears' to have some genuine respect and/or affection for Tomasello so I don't wish to pursue this matter any further.
I really enjoy the Tomasello videos despite what 'appears' to be some descrepencies. 'Appears' to me that Tom was teaching a left arm swing with a wrist throw. Yoda 'appears' to have some genuine respect and/or affection for Tomasello so I don't wish to pursue this matter any further.
Bumpy
Sorry, but Tomasello was not teaching a 10-20-E Wrist Throw in the videos on this site. I have video of Tommy teaching that particular trigger and it's definitely not what's on these videos.
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 08-13-2012 at 09:24 PM.
Originally Posted by HungryBear
Read 6th edition, 7-19, last paragraph, ....So, if there is a twinge in the elbow..
HB
Originally Posted by Delaware Golf
I have been swinging with the right arm for over 15 years never felt a twinge in my right elbow.
DG
That's because your right elbow does not replace your left shoulder.
Additionally, Yoda has stated that Tom was not teaching a right arm swing.
Let's review,
1. Homer is wrong.
2. Lynn is wrong.
3. Tom's interpretations of Homer and the machine are correct.
4. DG's interpretation of Tomasello, Homer and the machine are all correct.
5. DG is unable to demonstrate a valid argument.
Let's face it, Zach is a poster child for pissing away 'arm power'.
Originally Posted by HungryBear
Read 6th edition, 7-19, last paragraph, ....So, if there is a twinge in the elbow..
HB
Originally Posted by Delaware Golf
I have been swinging with the right arm for over 15 years never felt a twinge in my right elbow.
DG
That's because your right elbow does not replace your left shoulder.
Additionally, Yoda has stated that Tom was not teaching a right arm swing.
Let's review,
1. Homer is wrong.
2. Lynn is wrong.
3. Tom's interpretations of Homer and the machine are correct.
4. DG's interpretation of Tomasello, Homer and the machine are all correct.
5. DG is unable to demonstrate a valid argument.
Let's face it, Zach is a poster child for pissing away 'arm power'.
Bumpy
Thanks for the complements.
I don't get the pissing away arm power comment??? I believe it should be the opposite.
Trust me I've done enough arguing between the original TGM website and this site to last a lifetime. No need to argue, the facts are out and golfers like Zach are winning tournaments at the highest level. Just checkout Mike Bender's book at your local Barnes and Noble. Remember Mac O'Grady is Mike's mentor!!! Ya no that Homer Kelley student! Oh BTW, per the April 1991 edition of Golf Illustrated, Golfer Jodie Mudd mentions two instructors who helped him keep his tour card and make him a complete player (Players Championship and Tour Championship winner), who were those two instructors....hmmmmm. Tom Tomasello and Mac O'Grady. Interesting!!!
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 08-14-2012 at 10:06 PM.
I don't get the pissing away arm power comment??? I believe it should be the opposite.
Trust me I've done enough arguing between the original TGM website and this site to last a lifetime. No need to argue, the facts are out and golfers like Zach are winning tournaments at the highest level. Just checkout Mike Bender's book at your local Barnes and Noble. Remember Mac O'Grady is Mike's mentor!!! Ya no that Homer Kelley student! Oh BTW, per the April 1991 edition of Golf Illustrated, Golfer Jodie Mudd mentions two instructors who helped him keep his tour card and make him a complete player (Players Championship and Tour Championship winner), who were those two instructors....hmmmmm. Tom Tomasello and Mac O'Grady. Interesting!!!
What part of your post appears like a valid argument to you?
At some point you have to ask yourself why nobody is listening.
Im really interested in the way (s) the right arm can be used actively when swinging or hitting. A lot of pro's have said they use their right arm , or hand or ... Guys we don't think of as classic 3B Drive Loading Hitters. And they aren't.
What type of Right Arm throw did Tommy prescribe DG? Im talking about his Swinging procedure here. (And lets avoid whether he was swinging or hitting). Can you give us elbow position, pressure points employed , direction of loading (rotated or non lag pressure point), direction of thrust (against the #1 pp etc) , release type (sequenced or simu) grip type etc... Not meant as a test or anything I just really want to know. I sort of collect these things. I collect Throws! Like other guys collect butterflies or collector plates. They are illusive , the Throws are. Hard to articulate unless one speaks the TGM language. Even then ... there are problems with feels vs reals etc. You get guys describing things that I personally don't think they actually do etc. The right elbow position is very telling. The simu vs sequenced is telling. But i digress.
When Im Hitting Im typically
-drag loading which loads the Rotated Lag Pressure Point
-Right Shoulder Throw
-Right Arm Throw which Drives against the #1pp on the aft of the shaft .
meaning:
-Random Sweep Release , but late ish.
-Punch Elbow but closer to Pitch than Push along the continuum . Its like a side armed throw of a stone at the Aiming Point as opposed to an inline Push as in Drive Loading. Fanning and Bending.
-Simultaneous Release.
Its a throwing motion that throws the aft of the handle (#1pp) and the #3pp at the index finger at the Aiming Point. But i loaded the Rotated Lag Pressure Point , I know , I know... Another visual , since I definitely have the centre of my arm swing at the Left Shoulder (the left arm is always swinging) I throw the Primary Lever (left arm and club) around the hinge pin like Im throwing a door closed.
There are options of course.
PS when Im swinging (passive right arm for me) my components are similar with the exception that : Right ARm throw changes to Left Wrist and Simu changes to Sequenced. My Pivot throws off the left arm and throws out the bent right arm (the right arm is always driving).
Hybrid Mode
