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Old 12-02-2012, 12:41 AM
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You're trying to not understand. I don't know why unless you have a chip on your shoulder? TGM'ers are nice people.

I Said:

Maybe you don't understand the difference between traveling "Down plane" and traveling "Toward the Ground". It will help you understand if you stop thinking that moving toward the ground is "Down plane" and moving away from the ground is "Up Plane".



I'll try to help:

The Clubhead travels an Orbit and at some point on the Orbit the Leading Edge of the Clubface is Square to the Target Line, the Shaft at its correct Lie Angle and within a Plane perpendicular to the Target Line. This is called Low-Point Geometry and it is an Alignment, and not a specific Location until you designate one.

Imagine the Circle (Orbit) on a Horizontal Plane (see illustration below). Imagine Swinging on a Horizontal Plane and you strike the ball when the Clubshaft is at Right Angles to the Target Line. The Clubhead keeps traveling Down Plane. When does Down Plane stop and Up Plane begin?

Traveling Forward is Down Plane. "Capisce"


At the range with Start-up Swivel loading the heck out of my right foot on the inside and sitting on my right knee though mistakenly planting the left heel to come down, still holding the Bent Right Wrist at the shoulder, gripping the wheel rim allowed me to get to Both Arms straight with no worries. I probably got away with it because both feet were closer together. Snapped lots of Horizontal Hinges with lots of high fades and high draws as I moved leg positions and Low Point. Lots of stability the right leg. Really letting the Forward Swivel go following up the Plane, 50 degrees outside and the driver bounces at 230 yards.

Hands back-make right hip turn left tomorrow! Solid Structure keeping Plane on the "pitched roof "with Right Forearm Angle of Approach feeling to brush against my right thigh very inside and powerful!

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Old 12-02-2012, 04:35 PM
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Finding the Plane a lot closer and further in front of me!
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At the range with Start-up Swivel loading the heck out of my right foot on the inside and sitting on my right knee though mistakenly planting the left heel to come down, still holding the Bent Right Wrist at the shoulder, gripping the wheel rim allowed me to get to Both Arms straight with no worries. I probably got away with it because both feet were closer together. Snapped lots of Horizontal Hinges with lots of high fades and high draws as I moved leg positions and Low Point. Lots of stability the right leg. Really letting the Forward Swivel go following up the Plane, 50 degrees outside and the driver bounces at 230 yards.

Hands back-make right hip turn left tomorrow! Solid Structure keeping Plane on the "pitched roof "with Right Forearm Angle of Approach feeling to brush against my right thigh very inside and powerful!

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A balmy 43 degrees and melting snow greeted us at 8am this morning but what was unexpected was how close the Base line of the Plane was to me and how far in front of me the ball can be struck squarely slightly before Both Arms Straight. The distance with driver was almost June-like which was unbelievable!

Irons were two -three clubs shorter but the ball position was still incredibly close! A simple left turn with the right hip after RFT sent the ball straight, high and far. So an 84 felt pretty good for not playing for three weeks with a inconsistent putting day.


I have to remember to let the Forward Swivel work and not chicken-wing.
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Old 12-02-2012, 06:24 PM
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Sounds promising. Right Hip Turns Left to start the Down Stroke. Left heel becomes planted. That's a good one.

43 degrees. Not so good. But daring.

Did you win?
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:04 PM
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My opponent shot an 80...
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Sounds promising. Right Hip Turns Left to start the Down Stroke. Left heel becomes planted. That's a good one.

43 degrees. Not so good. But daring.

Did you win?
...But he still lost 5 holes to 3 with no strokes given!

I nailed lots of straight balls yesterday with driver, 3 wood and hybrids but missed some conversions of putts and chips.

And by sliding the ball [i]in a straight line of a couple of inches back toward my right foot I will pick up some "hoopah!" [/I] But the ball is so close to me it feels almost inside the width of the turn of my shoulder!

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My opponent shot an 80...
Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
Sounds promising. Right Hip Turns Left to start the Down Stroke. Left heel becomes planted. That's a good one.

43 degrees. Not so good. But daring.

Did you win?
...But he still lost 5 holes to 3 with no strokes given!

I nailed lots of straight balls yesterday with driver, 3 wood and hybrids but missed some conversions of putts and chips.

And by sliding the ball in a straight line of a couple of inches back toward my right foot I will pick up some "hoopah!" ] But the ball is so close to me it feels almost inside the width of the turn of my shoulder!

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Old 12-03-2012, 10:07 PM
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My opponent shot an 80...
Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
Sounds promising. Right Hip Turns Left to start the Down Stroke. Left heel becomes planted. That's a good one.

43 degrees. Not so good. But daring.

Did you win?
...But he still lost 5 holes to 3 with no strokes given!

I nailed lots of straight balls yesterday with driver, 3 wood and hybrids but missed some conversions of putts and chips.

And by sliding the ball in a straight line of a couple of inches back toward my right foot I will pick up some "hoopah!" But the ball is so close to me it feels almost inside the width of the turn of my shoulder!

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Old 12-03-2012, 10:20 PM
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...But he still lost 5 holes to 3 with no strokes given!

I nailed lots of straight balls yesterday with driver, 3 wood and hybrids but missed some conversions of putts and chips.

And by sliding the ball in a straight line of a couple of inches back toward my right foot I will pick up some "hoopah!" But the ball is so close to me it feels almost inside the width of the turn of my shoulder!

ICT
Hmm, then maybe just move it back. Judge how far away by the Right Forearm Angle of Approach at Impact Fix. It will establish the correct Plane Angle for you Approach. Really cool. So, if your Forearm is on an Elbow Plane the Ball will be a little farther from your Stance Line than if your Forearm is on a Turned Shoulder Plane which located the Plane Line a bit closer to your Stance Line for a Steeper Plane.
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Old 12-04-2012, 12:12 AM
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Very nice! Thanks
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Hmm, then maybe just move it back. Judge how far away by the Right Forearm Angle of Approach at Impact Fix. It will establish the correct Plane Angle for you Approach. Really cool. So, if your Forearm is on an Elbow Plane the Ball will be a little farther from your Stance Line than if your Forearm is on a Turned Shoulder Plane which located the Plane Line a bit closer to your Stance Line for a Steeper Plane.
Signing out from PLANE Philadelphia!



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Old 12-06-2012, 12:23 AM
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I get it!
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Hmm, then maybe just move it back. Judge how far away by the Right Forearm Angle of Approach at Impact Fix. It will establish the correct Plane Angle for you Approach. Really cool. So, if your Forearm is on an Elbow Plane the Ball will be a little farther from your Stance Line than if your Forearm is on a Turned Shoulder Plane which located the Plane Line a bit closer to your Stance Line for a Steeper Plane.
I'm sorry for the rest of the people who have already gotten the difference between the Hand Positions and the correct Plane Angle of Approach, but I just got it! Hands to shoulder, TSP, steeper angle, feels like I'm covering the ball with my shoulder -very powerful! It's amazing how different the feelings between that TSP swing and the Elbow Plane swing!

Thanks Daryl!

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Old 12-06-2012, 11:05 PM
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I've read the many excellent posts on this thread and am happy to comment. Not sure where to jump in!

If you have a question you feel is unanswered -- or answered less than adequately -- please post, and I'll do my best to supply.

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