On Plane Motion Practice

[MizunoJoe]

[quote=HungryBear;94453]

OK now I follow you-
Ypu are thinking 7-23 paragraph #3. I have been thinling release to followthrough.

Yes I do have a 7-23 "plane shift" tsp down to elbow for swinging but I also have a flat plane release to followthrough. HK explains that.

I don't do "sweet spot plane" because, as I have argued before, I just ain't what it is said to be.

Gota get on the same page.

HB

I'm talking Throwout to Follow Through, with or without plane shifts. But, yes the elbow plane has an even more "non-planar" hand path than the TSP.

[HungryBear]

[quote=MizunoJoe;94454]

I'm talking Throwout to Follow Through, with or without plane shifts. But, yes the elbow plane has an even more "non-planar" hand path than the TSP.

Nope, and if the plane is "3D" there is "off plane" throwaway.

If you care to list "off plane" forces, and how/why they are generated we could see what U believe to be correct.

[MizunoJoe]

[quote=HungryBear;94455]

Nope, and if the plane is "3D" there is "off plane" throwaway.

If you care to list "off plane" forces, and how/why they are generated we could see what U believe to be correct.

The hand path isn't planar, because the angle between the left forearm and shaft is less than 180 degs, and therefore the hands must move off plane so that the sweet spot can stay on plane.

In the TSP Swing, the Right Shoulder, PP#3, and the Sweetspot are all on plane from the Top to Throwout, so there are no off-plane forces acting on the Sweetspot. When Throwout begins, the hands move off plane, but the Right Shoulder(Thrust) and PP#3 continue to trace the plane line, and so there is no off plane hand force to deflect the club head unless you try to "add" with the arms or hands.