[quote=drewitgolf;52247]... The manufacture now creates a Lie Angle by taking the Sweetspot of the racket Head out of line with the handle by giving it hookface.....QUOTE]
This is my understanding of how hookface works. Clubhead COG is not in same plane as the face of the clubhead.
If that is correct then what is happening with the new drivers where COG is forever being moved further back away from clubface?
It occurs to me that assuming the shorter the club the more of back of low point it is played;
-the more out there will be after impact.
-the more down after impact
So if the face is aligned square to the target and the club is traveling out we have a draw or hook situation? Or maybe this just points out my confusion about clubface alignment too?
This is my understanding of how hookface works. Clubhead COG is not in same plane as the face of the clubhead.
If that is correct then what is happening with the new drivers where COG is forever being moved further back away from clubface?
This was posted by Mathew back in 2006. Get out a few businees cards to make your own Planes and follow along...
"Hookfaced position is when the initial ball flight plane runs directly vertical to the clubface plane and the lie angle plane whilst another plane can be made that is directly vertical to the lie angle plane on a line where the clubface plane intersects the lie angle plane which is also vertical to the clubshaft plane. To the degree that the clubshaft is moved around in a circle from - vertical to the lie angle plane - to towards the lie angle plane itself on the clubshaft plane is the degree it is hookfaced.
Offset is when the initial ball flight plane runs directly vertical to the clubface plane and the lie angle plane whilst another plane can be made that is directly vertical to the lie angle plane on a line where the clubface plane intersects the lie angle plane which is closed to the clubshaft plane. It is most likely that an offset club has a combination of hookface and offset.
Could you, or Mathew, explain Mathew's words in photo-diagrams or a video demonstration?
Jeff.
Jeff,
I appreciate your request, however, I am about as computer illiterate as it comes. Mathew on the other hand is a computer genius. Hopefully, he will post (Youtube?) when he returns. I am still trying to figure out why I can't view any video on You Tube .
Could you, or Mathew, explain Mathew's words in photo-diagrams or a video demonstration?
Jeff.
Perhaps a demonstration on a horizontal plane will help.
As in swinging a baseball bat, anything hit before low point ( which in this example is when the bat is perpendicular to home plate-second base line) goes out to the right.
Try this drill. Hold your right arm out in front of you at shoulder level, palm facing 'second base'.
Now move your arm back, so your palm is facing about half way between 1st and 2nd base (out to the right)
Without moving your arm, arch your right wrist so that the palm faces second base.
The amount your right arm is moved back is directly related to how much you have to arch your right wrist. In other words, the more out to the right, or 'up plane', the more hook face (arch need to get back to 'square').
The same is true on an angled plane.
Keep in mind, this drill has the arm representing the club's design, we want a bent right wrist in G.O.L.F.!
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Perhaps a demonstration on a horizontal plane will help.
As in swinging a baseball bat, anything hit before low point ( which in this example is when the bat is perpendicular to home plate-second base line) goes out to the right.
Try this drill. Hold your right arm out in front of you at shoulder level, palm facing 'second base'.
Now move your arm back, so your palm is facing about half way between 1st and 2nd base (out to the right)
Without moving your arm, arch your right wrist so that the palm faces second base.
The amount your right arm is moved back is directly related to how much you have to arch your right wrist. In other words, the more out to the right, or 'up plane', the more hook face (arch need to get back to 'square').
The same is true on an angled plane.
Keep in mind, this drill has the arm representing the club's design, we want a bent right wrist in G.O.L.F.!
Thanks EdZ
What implications, if any, are there to the golfer? Given a club face pointed at the target and a lot of out and down after impact.
The way I understand Hook face as learnt from videos of Yoda-
The golf swing is a down and out (until low point) stroke. The hook face iron clubs does the work avoiding the ball goes right.
The Driver doesn’t have much hook face. So, if we place the ball back in the stance, where the ball goes? So, this icon shows us where the ball should place when we use the big stick.
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If you cannot take the shoulder down the clubshaft plane, you must take along some other path and add compensations - now, instead of one motion to remember, you wind up with at least two!
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shows us where the ball should place when we use the big stick.
Linear Mode
