Are there any explicit instructions on this action in TGM? I reviewed chapter 7 and the index and came up empty. My specific question is whether the right hip is cleared by the right forearm pickup or is an independent move done simultaneuosly with the rfp. 7-17 refers to the heels being pulled off the ground, presumably by the pivot. Is the right hip pulled or does it move independently?
You must train your pivot to move correctly. Once it learns what to do you will not have to think about it, unless it is getting in way and causing you problems.
Train it then you forget about it.
Your mind will be more in your hands and the right forearm, not in your right hip.
Are there any explicit instructions on this action in TGM? I reviewed chapter 7 and the index and came up empty. My specific question is whether the right hip is cleared by the right forearm pickup or is an independent move done simultaneuosly with the rfp. 7-17 refers to the heels being pulled off the ground, presumably by the pivot. Is the right hip pulled or does it move independently?
The hips and arms/shoulders move independently - "HULA HULA".
Are there any explicit instructions on this action in TGM? I reviewed chapter 7 and the index and came up empty. My specific question is whether the right hip is cleared by the right forearm pickup or is an independent move done simultaneuosly with the rfp. 7-17 refers to the heels being pulled off the ground, presumably by the pivot. Is the right hip pulled or does it move independently?
The pivot uses both the Shoulders and the Hips. Each move independently from each other in a coordinated, timed, sequence.
This is where the Hands train the pivot so there is no ‘roundhousing’ of the Hands around the right hip. The pivot should allow the Hands to go directly to the ball or aiming point. You can pre-set the right hip at address or use a delayed Hip action on the up stroke. You need to start the downstroke with a hip action that lead the shoulders, then the arms and Hands along its Delivery Path.
Some say the right hip is pulled by the rotation of the left hip. Others say fire the right hip- a thrust or a pop at impact. The right hip cannot remain still if the left is turning and the right hip can still fire as it turns. A Swinger may feel more pull and a Hitter will feel the thrust or push.
As for the feet. Homer didn’t want you to lift the right foot as an action on to itself. The right foot should lift because of the stroke’s momentum forward and only as much as that allows. There is no independent right foot lifting.
This is where the Hands train the pivot so there is no ‘roundhousing’ of the Hands around the right hip. The pivot should allow the Hands to go directly to the ball or aiming point. You can pre-set the right hip at address or use a delayed Hip action on the up stroke. You need to start the downstroke with a hip action that lead the shoulders, then the arms and Hands along its Delivery Path.
You just turn it the amount you want . . . so basically you are making your backstroke hip turn before you actually make the backstroke. You can turn it the full amount or how much you like. Doing this actually shortens your arm swing and get the hip out of the way so you don't have to go around it in your 3 dimensional backstroke (back up and in) . . . just like the downstroke . . . get it out of the way so you can go (down and out).
As bucket posted, you can turn the hip as if you are sitting on your back right pocket. That leaves the Stance Line parallel to the Target and Plane Line.
You can also:
Set up in a closed stance to your target line, 10-5-E (??). This set up is still a variation of a delayed Hip Action and allows for a clear path for the right elbow and put the Right Shoulder On Plane. Can be for Swinger or Hitter. The Plane line will be slightly closed and tracing it will prevent the right elbow to roundhouse the right hip. This has to be worked out on the lesson tee.
Practice Start Down waggles- a hip action- and you will have a well trained pivot motion. A well trained hip action as part of the pivot will never have the Hands veer off its Delivery Path.
Homer had a bit of a phobia about the right hip being in the way but it doesn’t take much too disturb the Delivery of the Hands and the Right Elbow needs open space.
I once saw an old video of Mr. Kelley teaching a few guys... and they were working on this pre-turned right hip, on the backswing. Tom Tomasello used to teach this sometimes, as well a Peter Croker. They would kind of blend it in there, where it was not as obvious. With Mr. Kelley's guys on this film, you could clearly see this.
The book does, of course, give options on the backswing, for the hips... Slide Turn, Delayed Hip Action, etc..
Are there any explicit instructions on this action in TGM? I reviewed chapter 7 and the index and came up empty. My specific question is whether the right hip is cleared by the right forearm pickup or is an independent move done simultaneuosly with the rfp. 7-17 refers to the heels being pulled off the ground, presumably by the pivot. Is the right hip pulled or does it move independently?
My specific question is whether the right hip is cleared by the right forearm pickup..... As long as you specify - CORRECT (correct being on your chosen plane) right forearm pickup, the answer is YES, YES, and more YES. That is the hand controlled pivot. Note the word controlled. Not just that the hands are imprortant, but they actually control or dictate (per 5-0). If you are determined to trace your chosen plane line, the right hip simply must clear - clear meaning move or get out the way. Dictation by the hands means a perfect pivot - no more or less movement for your machine (that must remain stable) than necessary.
If you wanted to pre clear the right hip, you could trace the plane line (right forearm pickup) in a "practice" right forearm pickup and just keep the hip in the cleared position.
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