[Jeff]

mrose

You wrote-: "i thought TT says lower the right shoulder starting down which then forces the left hip back to where it began. his sequence being... right hip-right forearm--right shoulder-left hip."

I personally believe that you are correct to state that TT taught that approach when he recommended a body pivot-driven swing rather than his other approach - a "right arm throw" swing. In his 5-day South Carolina TGM school lesson series, he stated that his downswing started with a movement of the right shoulder downplane, which then secondarily caused the pelvis to shift-rotate towards the target, and this lower body movement then ended up evolving into a left hip clearing action. In other words, Ben Hogan thought of starting the downswing with a pelvic shift-rotation movement that secondarily causes the right shoulder to move downplane, while TT taught the opposite approach.

Jeff.